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Old 01-19-2013, 09:25 PM   #16
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Yah, I did lower it while I was tweaking with it....that explains a lot tbh....

And the check valve was given to me when I got the regulator, it looks pretty standard tbh. And I guess I was really worried cause its my first time doing this sorta thing, plus the fact that I had mineral oil throughout all of my tubing which gave me quiet the fright. I just get a little shy with these kinda things until I'm more experiences with it lol

And yah, it is an inline bubble counter. I only had a check valve below it though because I didn't have enough, but I'm going to go out about now and just get some new cheap ones to hold me over for a bit.

When it happened I wasn't sure what was going on so I panicked a tad :P
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Old 01-19-2013, 09:42 PM   #17
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Btw, while on h subject, when should I have my co2 turn off? I thought maybe 15 minutes before tr lifts go off, since it doesn't make sense to me to run co2 until he lights go off because then you are probably just wasting some...also because I am using an aerator at night
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:26 AM   #18
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Okay, no, I have a problem now

I fixed the check valves (I believe), and that all seems to be fine.....and when I turn everything on my one 10 gallon does fine, bubble form and all that jazz.....

but the back of my regulator.....was hissing intensely and had ice forming on it......ICE

I have no idea....what I should do.....it appears that I have a leak.....which is weird considering that didn't happen yesterday when I had everything working fine for a bit....

I really need someone with experience to physically set this up for me and show me what I am doing wrong or how to fix this, because I'm now at a loss
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Old 01-20-2013, 02:41 AM   #19
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Btw, while on h subject, when should I have my co2 turn off? I thought maybe 15 minutes before tr lifts go off, since it doesn't make sense to me to run co2 until he lights go off because then you are probably just wasting some...also because I am using an aerator at night
I like to have my CO2 turn on 30 minutes before the lights come on, and then turn off 30 minutes before the lights turn off.

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but the back of my regulator.....was hissing intensely and had ice forming on it......ICE
You are not trying to run the CO2 cylinder sideways or anything like that, are you?

Or perhaps, at some point, you had the CO2 cylinder valve open, and tipped it, allowing liquid CO2 to go into the regulator? Either of these actions would damage the regulator.
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Old 01-20-2013, 02:45 AM   #20
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My cylinder has been upright the whole time
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Old 01-20-2013, 03:21 AM   #21
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Need a picture....

A used system, don't assume it is trouble free, need to function/leak check the hell out of it(link in the signature)
Ice forming means huge leak, if you are sure all connection are secured and the leak is not from the relief valve(if there is one), the first diaphragm may be punched.
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Old 01-20-2013, 04:08 AM   #22
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Need a picture....

A used system, don't assume it is trouble free, need to function/leak check the hell out of it(link in the signature)
Ice forming means huge leak, if you are sure all connection are secured and the leak is not from the relief valve(if there is one), the first diaphragm may be punched.
It was a new system though...I got it from someone on this forum.
Man, idk what to do, I've spent too much time and money on this for it to fail now
I'm going to check 2morrow and see what is going on if I can. It wasn't doing this last night, so idk what happened.
I'm just so bummed out beyond belief, I've been looking forward to doing this since last year and now this is happening.
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Old 01-20-2013, 04:11 AM   #23
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No worry, darkblade, oldpunk and me will figure out the exact problem and help you to fix it, or to find a replacement part.
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As Bettatail mentioned, if you did not tip the CO2 cylinder over and it has been upright all this time, ice forming (rather, condensation that freezes due to the cold temperature) on the regulator could indicate a punctured diaphragm.

I would close off the main CO2 cylinder valve, back off (turn counterclockwise) the regulator knob so that no gas will flow into the second stage, and then slowly work through Bettatail's guide for the leak test.

If at any time you see condensation beginning to freeze, make note of where it occurred and report back.
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Alright, will do

And thanks for the help guys. I swear, the entire time I've been wanting to do this everyone I know has been calling me crazy and my parents were questioning if I would blow up the house or something. Idk if its just me, but its incredibly frustrating not knowing anyone else in person that is into these sort of things.
I really need to go to some meet ups and aquarium clubs and stuff like that....I will say its hard for me to figure some things out since I have no one to show these things to me.

If you guys don't mind me asking, especially those whom have built their own systems and stuff, how did you guys manage to get into that and get it all done right? Just a lot of time on the internet or does everyone else have buddies who can help hook them up?
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^ Google....

OR a better way is to massive PM

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Ice means a leak for sure. Is it coming from the actual back of the regulator or is it leaking from a connection somewhere on the regulator and its building up ice on that part of the regulator?

The first time I set my reg up everything was fine and worked for the first day, and I assumed everything was nice and tight. The next day I had a leak and ice build up, and it was because I didn't have the reg to the CO2 tank connection tight enough. Made it tighter, and the leak went away. Be careful not to over tighten connections.
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Ice means a leak for sure. Is it coming from the actual back of the regulator or is it leaking from a connection somewhere on the regulator and its building up ice on that part of the regulator?

The first time I set my reg up everything was fine and worked for the first day, and I assumed everything was nice and tight. The next day I had a leak and ice build up, and it was because I didn't have the reg to the CO2 tank connection tight enough. Made it tighter, and the leak went away. Be careful not to over tighten connections.
I'm hoping its just that, but I'm afraid of my being wrong :\

Apparently, I sent a pic to the seller and they told me that my low pressure gauge went out of wack....so that's fantastic *sigh*

I'm just really discouraged right now
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I'm hoping its just that, but I'm afraid of my being wrong :\

Apparently, I sent a pic to the seller and they told me that my low pressure gauge went out of wack....so that's fantastic *sigh*

I'm just really discouraged right now
Posting the pictures here would be helpful as well.

Did you back off the regulator (turning the knob counterclockwise) before opening the main cylinder valve?

If not, opening the main cylinder valve and allowing 800 PSI of pressure to go into the delivery pressure gauge could be enough to cause the needle to go around the dial (and causing the needle to bend, etc).
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Well, before doing a bubble test...I have a bigger problem.
I just unhooked everything and took the regulator off of y tank, because I took the solinoide off and felt tht it had mineral oil on it......
Then I left it alone and when I looked at it, there was a puddle of mineral oil and water on the floor, slowly dripping out where the solinoide plugs in......also, my needle valves are loose I think
I'm seriously like, beyond knowing what to do now....I'm rather agitated and I feel really lost.....
I'm like 2 minutes from just saying screw it and having someone with experience come over here....granted I don't know anyone in person but I'll find someone on the island from the forum or something, idc anymore.......
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