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Old 01-15-2013, 08:52 PM   #1
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PLantex and Shrimp help


I recently started a Cherry shrimp tank. It is planted and I have had my shirmp in there over a week or two and then stated to add ferts.

I used the green lead aquiram fert package and I knowed the day after I started putting plantex into the water massive die off of shrimp occured.

I use a 500 ML bottle and the PPS PRO method for ferts. I noticed not all the plantex is dissloved in the bottle. I have shaken it very well and its still not disloved yet? is it possible this is the reason my shrimp died?
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Old 01-15-2013, 08:58 PM   #2
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How recent is "recently"? When did you start the tank?

How did you cycle your tank?

What are all of your water parameters?

These:

pH
GH
KH
Temperature
Ammonia
Nitrite
Nitrate
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Old 01-15-2013, 09:01 PM   #3
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have you checked your water? test it whit all the test kits you have and then get back to us whit the numbers. do you have a tds meter? and when ever you do ferts on a shrimp tank i would cut it way down, like 1/3 of what they call for.
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:37 AM   #4
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Tank is cycled has been running a long time. I have varies other tanks.

Water is perfect. and I added the Plantex like 2 days ago and then the die off happened today and last night. I believe it is because it was not disloved.

I use 1ML per day of fert form both bottles.
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Old 01-16-2013, 01:00 PM   #5
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We're not trying to be difficult but you'll need to give us more specific answers.

How long is "a long time"?

What does "perfect" mean? What are your specific water parameters?

It's not because your fertilizer wasn't dissolved. That's why we asked for parameters.

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Tank is cycled has been running a long time. I have varies other tanks.

Water is perfect. and I added the Plantex like 2 days ago and then the die off happened today and last night. I believe it is because it was not disloved.

I use 1ML per day of fert form both bottles.
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Old 01-16-2013, 01:20 PM   #6
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If you are requesting help, there's insufficient information to really wager any sort of guess on what is amiss.

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Tank is cycled has been running a long time. I have varies other tanks..
"long time" is a relative term. When you are a mosquito, a day is considered a LONG TIME.

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Water is perfect.
Perfect is yet another relative term. what's perfect for one shrimp breed may not be for another.

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and I added the Plantex like 2 days ago and then the die off happened today and last night. I believe it is because it was not disloved.

I use 1ML per day of fert form both bottles.
How much water volume are you dosing 1ml of dosing?

Where did you recieve instruction on dosage and to use macros and micros simulaneously and daily?

What sort of plants and relative plant density are in the tank to really formulate the amount for the types of fertilizer to be used?
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Old 01-16-2013, 11:33 PM   #7
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Alright, Sorry about the confusion I didnt mean to come across as mean or rude! I was on my way to work at the time so was in a rush but wanted to reply to you guys!

As for how long the tank has been up I would say since July 2012

it is a 10 gallon tank with a HOB filter with a pre filter over the intake, heated between 75-79 F

I have drawf hairgrass, Microswords, Vallisneria Spiralis, Java moss on stainless steel, and pellia on stainless steel.

I got my info on the PPS Pro method from this site

https://sites.google.com/site/aquati...r/home/pps-pro

My chemicals that I use are

Bottle 1: PLantex CSM + B (500ML bottle)
Bottle 2: Potassium Sulfate, Potassium Nitrate, Mono Potassium Phosphate

My Water tested like this:

Ammonia: 0 PPM
Nitrite: 0 PPM
Nitrate: 20 PPM

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There were 9 Cherry Shrimp in this tank no other fish or shrimp besides that. They have a rock Cave to hide in.

I am currently trying to breed these little guys but they keep dying!

The reason I keep saying it is the plantex is because I was dosing everything but that for about 3-6 days then I started the plantex (Because I finally got my second bottle lol)_

Once again sorry for sounding mean! I was in a hurry!

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are you running co2? try adding an air stone to the water some times it can help.
what are you tds and Gh and ph? shrimp are sensitive to gh and ph. if the gh are to low it can hurt molting and if to high some times they cant molt and die. allso try lowing your nitrates, 20 shouldn't kill rcs but shrimp like low nitrates.

how are they dieing? do they just die or are they dieing trying to molt?
your rock cave what is it? some rocks can release stuff in the water.

and 3-6 days is just the right time for stuff to start building up in your tank. every thing you put in it raises the. tds you really need to get a tds meter and see what they are and check your kh, gh and ph
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:45 PM   #9
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Well, I know I have high PH I'd say about 8.0

Thats just the way my water is around here. It's not the rock its from my local shop I work at I know its safe.

No co2 in that tank so should the air stone still help?

They are molting but when they die, they are just laying there no signs of them trying to molt
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Old 01-21-2013, 05:28 AM   #10
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I'm still an algae grower, but I read every thread that had to do with raising shrimp. This site helped me the most as I started with planted tanks before moving to shrimp. Read the sticky's and you'll find all your answers. My problem in the beginning was adding macros that contained copper like Plantex CSM+B or Flourish. The shrimp hid and were very inactive. I don't dose macros, took out the KNO3 and added Cuprisorb. My CRS are kicking booty and have at least 2 berried females less than a month into this highly addictive hobby.

Check out this link: http://www.planetinverts.com/Dosing%...%20Shrimp.html
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Two things, I think your temperature is too high. Not saying that is why they died, I just wanted to point that out.

And you said the tank has been set up since July, but how long have the shrimp been in the tank?
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Two things, I think your temperature is too high. Not saying that is why they died, I just wanted to point that out.

And you said the tank has been set up since July, but how long have the shrimp been in the tank?
one shirmp live din it for 2 months then added 8 more and they all ended up dying with a week.
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Old 01-22-2013, 09:25 PM   #13
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I'm still an algae grower, but I read every thread that had to do with raising shrimp. This site helped me the most as I started with planted tanks before moving to shrimp. Read the sticky's and you'll find all your answers. My problem in the beginning was adding macros that contained copper like Plantex CSM+B or Flourish. The shrimp hid and were very inactive. I don't dose macros, took out the KNO3 and added Cuprisorb. My CRS are kicking booty and have at least 2 berried females less than a month into this highly addictive hobby.

Check out this link: http://www.planetinverts.com/Dosing%...%20Shrimp.html
Great info, good read!

I will try to use what this arictle said!
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