Metering(needle) valves selection for our CO2 pressurized system

[FlyingHellFish]

Originally Posted by oldpunk78

I personally think the big turn counter is pretty cool. I'd prefer it be the angle version but beggers can't be choosers...

I wonder if there's a regular veneire handle available? That would be less huge looking.

The price is just ridiculous, I mean, they sell the normal needle valve (the one that on every retail kit) at 14.99 and that chrome brass and is way-way smaller.This guy must of jacked a Parker trailer or something. Sadly, the item is already ship, one is good enough. When I get it, I'll try to make a comparison between it and the cheapo needle valve on the same Co2 line.

Also, I know the pdf does state that you can remove the handle to prevent tampering, but I think I'm just leave the handle on.

[OVT]

H3 comes with a manual and step-by-step instructions for various levels of dis-assembly - taking off the handle takes a second. Other parts are a bit more complicated.

[Bettatail]

Originally Posted by OVT

H3 comes with a manual and step-by-step instructions for various levels of dis-assembly - taking off the handle takes a second. Other parts are a bit more complicated.

Like your signature,

[Bettatail]

To everyone who pm me the last three days, will get the answer by tomorrow morning....
Haven't loggined the last three days, errr, pm box bombarded, will answer each question, no sleep until sun rise anyway, so plenty of time.

[Bettatail]

First, solenoid, the low wattage, working pressure and right size connection ports are what needs to be kept in mind when you are looking for one.
Second, after burkert 2822 all gone, there is no such SS burkert solenoids fall in the range for our CO2 system on eee-bay.
Third, who pm'ed me looking for a solenoid, expect good news because I know what's available on eee-bay.

add:
for Third, good news is not that good, found only three type 300 Burkert solenoids on eee-bay, 4 watts power consumption is ok but price not attractive.
The type 300 burkert solenoid is old model, most people searching for 6011, but didn't know the type 300 solenoids exist.
and there is type 200 too....

[Bettatail]

All pms answered,

In the picture is the stainless steel type 200, the first one from the left.






To wire, any Din connector Form B, (or burkert part number 2507), and a computer power cable.

[Bettatail]

planning on a new stand for the 168G, but hurt my back even before the project start,
now laying on the bed checking fish tank stand design.....

[FlyingHellFish]

^ 168G?

I'm pretty sure you can just say it's 170 G tank. What are you planning for it? Might I recommend a 12 oz paintball set up? Or better yet!, buy a Fluval Mini Co2 system, I hear they are great!

[Bettatail]

it is a stand for the fish tank that I am sketching on paper right now, and thanks for the recommendation, I've got a 15lb co2 tank for the fish tank, lol.


my back hurt, still need to move 2X4s, sucks.
worse after the stand is built, need to move the fish tank....

[FlyingHellFish]

Did you buy the stand or built it yourself? I been hearing how easy a ADA knock off stand for small tanks are, seem pretty straight forward. But with a 170 g tank, good luck. That a whole another project on it's own.

How heavy is your 15 lb co2 when full? Do you have to bring a friend to carry that? I used to think 5 lb were a bitch to carry around.

[creekbottom]

Originally Posted by Bettatail

To wire, any Din connector Form B, (or burkert part number 2507), and a computer power cable.

That is what I'm trying to wire right now. However... I don't know which post is positive or negative. They are only labelled 1 and 2. The ground is clearly labelled.

Which one is which?

[Darkblade48]

This is the Burkert? I am pretty sure polarity does not matter for AC solenoids.

However, if you want to be consistent, the left prong of a power cord is neutral (white), the right prong is live (black), and the bottom prong is ground (green).

[Bettatail]

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[Bettatail]

Originally Posted by FlyingHellFish

Did you buy the stand or built it yourself? I been hearing how easy a ADA knock off stand for small tanks are, seem pretty straight forward. But with a 170 g tank, good luck. That a whole another project on it's own.

How heavy is your 15 lb co2 when full? Do you have to bring a friend to carry that? I used to think 5 lb were a bitch to carry around.

building the stand myself, and the 15lb co2 tank is ok to carry, not that heavy, about 30-40lb, I believe. I used to run around like a chicken with my 170LB sergeant fireman carried on my shoulder, I was 155lb at the time though. Can't do that anymore, I would end up laying in bed for months if get my back hurt again.

here are pictures of the unfinished project.
the fish tank behind the stand is a 55G, will be the new sump.

[Bettatail]

Originally Posted by Darkblade48

This is the Burkert? I am pretty sure polarity does not matter for AC solenoids.

However, if you want to be consistent, the left prong of a power cord is neutral (white), the right prong is live (black), and the bottom prong is ground (green).

+1, agree, AC Unit not really matter the hot or cold, but usually the hot side(black) is on the right when the ground prong is at the bottom. (Hot on the left if the ground prong is above the parallel prongs)