My Bengal Tiger shrimps...aka TT x Red Tiger cross.

**infamouz23** · 01-10-2013, 07:33 PM

This makes me want to get into Tiger Shrimp. Thanks for the pictures.

pinoyghost2 · 01-10-2013, 07:47 PM

are u telling me that your orange tiger one went to that white crystal type one in one generation?

Maybe I will just keep on breeding these then

I would love to have some more of those Crystal white ones.

**mordalphus** · 01-10-2013, 08:14 PM

Yes, that's what I'm saying. Most shrimp pattern and color genes are recessive, meaning both parents need them in order for offspring to express them. So in order for that to happen, you have to breed f1 generations together.

You won't have Bengal in f2, it'll be red tiger or tt dominated, not shared like f1.

You should keep these shrimp anyway because there's no guarantee they'refertile or free of defect either since they are a true cross breed (iinterspecies breeding)

pinoyghost2 · 01-10-2013, 08:27 PM

OK so how did you get the white one? Parent x F1 or what?

**mordalphus** · 01-10-2013, 08:35 PM

F1 x F1, they weren't all clear like that, some looked like orange CRS, some looked like regular CRS, some looked like normal tts, a lot just died because of the mixture of genes didn't mash up just right...

There's a lot of variability and in genetics 1 + 1 doesn't always equal 2.

pinoyghost2 · 01-10-2013, 10:53 PM

Yeah know what you mean...I used to breed painted horses a few years ago..never could tell what would come out of the pot.

So far I have been lucky enough to have most of them come out orange with the black/white stripes and some with spots/stripes too.

CharleeFoxtrot · 01-11-2013, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by pinoyghost2

Yeah know what you mean...I used to breed painted horses a few years ago..never could tell what would come out of the pot.

So far I have been lucky enough to have most of them come out orange with the black/white stripes and some with spots/stripes too.

I read that as meaning your APHAs foaled orange with black stripes LOL. Sorry, horses are my other money-draining hobby

**ravensgate** · 01-11-2013, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by CharleeFoxtrot

I read that as meaning your APHAs foaled orange with black stripes LOL. Sorry, horses are my other money-draining hobby

Mine too. LOL. So apparently horse people like to spend whatever is leftover on shrimp.

CharleeFoxtrot · 01-11-2013, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ravensgate

Mine too. LOL. So apparently horse people like to spend whatever is leftover on shrimp.

Well I'll tell ya there is good money in both shrimp and horses. I know, I put it there

**ravensgate** · 01-11-2013, 01:47 AM

HAHAHAH boy you ain't kidding! What's that old saying 'I made a small fortune in horses. Problem is...I started with a LARGE fortune.' Or something like that. LOL! My husband is less than thrilled that I have another critter obsession. He married into horses...I sort a got into the shrimp last year. Another money pit but oh the fun I have! WOOT!

CharleeFoxtrot · 01-11-2013, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ravensgate

HAHAHAH boy you ain't kidding! What's that old saying 'I made a small fortune in horses. Problem is...I started with a LARGE fortune.' Or something like that. LOL! My husband is less than thrilled that I have another critter obsession. He married into horses...I sort a got into the shrimp last year. Another money pit but oh the fun I have! WOOT!

My poor spouse married into both, when I get all excited about a saddle he doesn't know whether to look in the barn or the aquarium! Oh and sorry to the OP for the threadjack, those are some lovely shrimp!

**ravensgate** · 01-11-2013, 02:18 AM

OMG...I hadn't even thought about the saddle reference. Bwuahahahaha! Yeah, sorry for the thread hijack pinoy!

pinoyghost2 · 01-11-2013, 09:48 AM

Not a problem, actually I bred some extremely fancy half-arabians that won World and Regional/National titles....very proud of myself. I also bred the 1st Palomino Anglo-Arab horse in North America.

I did make a good lot of money off my horse breeding/selling, but then the bottom dropped out of the market (cost of hay, gas for transportation, too high show fees etc) and I split with my partner, so got out of it.

I went back to breeding Bettas, then one day at an auction I saw these little red shrimps cool...bought them and that was the start of the "addiction"

Ive tried my hand at almost every type of shrimp, and lately the Taiwans are my thing...just had 10+ BKK babies that are doing real well born, so I am very excited about that.

My love was the Tiger shrimp though....from Super Tigers, Reds, TT, OEBTs to BTOEs...have them all.

These were not planned just a glitch in my divided tank setup...didn't know that TTs would breed with other shrimps until I found one male in with my lone Red Tiger female (was keeping her on her own till I got some more males caught out of the other tank) Too late....Cassenova TT got her first....these are her/his offspring.

CharleeFoxtrot · 01-12-2013, 12:29 AM

That's great, I love arab crosses. We've got a garden variety Appy and a Friesian/Morgan cross. Oh, if you ever get an excess on the red tigers look me up I'd love to keep them but I can't find any.

**ravensgate** · 01-12-2013, 12:46 AM

Purebred Arabian girl here, got 6 of them...in the same boat, you get ready to sell these crosses please keep me in mind (I figure we can all toss out horse references now cuz ya know...common denominator and stuff

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infamouz23 Planted Tank Explorer (View User Tanks) PTrader: (8/100%) Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: East Bay, CA Posts: 76	This makes me want to get into Tiger Shrimp. Thanks for the pictures. __________________ SFBAAPS

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ravensgate Planted Tank Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (40/100%) Join Date: May 2012 Location: Tennessee Posts: 2,241	HAHAHAH boy you ain't kidding! What's that old saying 'I made a small fortune in horses. Problem is...I started with a LARGE fortune.' Or something like that. LOL! My husband is less than thrilled that I have another critter obsession. He married into horses...I sort a got into the shrimp last year. Another money pit but oh the fun I have! WOOT! __________________ 12G Rimless Club Jaime (yes, I'm a girl)

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ravensgate Planted Tank Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (40/100%) Join Date: May 2012 Location: Tennessee Posts: 2,241	OMG...I hadn't even thought about the saddle reference. Bwuahahahaha! Yeah, sorry for the thread hijack pinoy! __________________ 12G Rimless Club Jaime (yes, I'm a girl)

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ravensgate Planted Tank Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (40/100%) Join Date: May 2012 Location: Tennessee Posts: 2,241	Purebred Arabian girl here, got 6 of them...in the same boat, you get ready to sell these crosses please keep me in mind (I figure we can all toss out horse references now cuz ya know...common denominator and stuff) __________________ 12G Rimless Club Jaime (yes, I'm a girl)

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01-10-2013, 07:47 PM	#17
pinoyghost2 Planted Tank Obsessed (View User Tanks) PTrader: (3/100%) Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: NY Posts: 357	are u telling me that your orange tiger one went to that white crystal type one in one generation? Maybe I will just keep on breeding these then I would love to have some more of those Crystal white ones.

01-10-2013, 08:14 PM	#18
mordalphus These pants? are fancy. (View User Tanks) PTrader: (262/100%) Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 7,634	Yes, that's what I'm saying. Most shrimp pattern and color genes are recessive, meaning both parents need them in order for offspring to express them. So in order for that to happen, you have to breed f1 generations together. You won't have Bengal in f2, it'll be red tiger or tt dominated, not shared like f1. You should keep these shrimp anyway because there's no guarantee they'refertile or free of defect either since they are a true cross breed (iinterspecies breeding)

01-10-2013, 08:27 PM	#19
pinoyghost2 Planted Tank Obsessed (View User Tanks) PTrader: (3/100%) Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: NY Posts: 357	OK so how did you get the white one? Parent x F1 or what?

01-10-2013, 08:35 PM	#20
mordalphus These pants? are fancy. (View User Tanks) PTrader: (262/100%) Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 7,634	F1 x F1, they weren't all clear like that, some looked like orange CRS, some looked like regular CRS, some looked like normal tts, a lot just died because of the mixture of genes didn't mash up just right... There's a lot of variability and in genetics 1 + 1 doesn't always equal 2.

01-10-2013, 10:53 PM	#21
pinoyghost2 Planted Tank Obsessed (View User Tanks) PTrader: (3/100%) Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: NY Posts: 357	Yeah know what you mean...I used to breed painted horses a few years ago..never could tell what would come out of the pot. So far I have been lucky enough to have most of them come out orange with the black/white stripes and some with spots/stripes too.

01-11-2013, 09:48 AM	#28
pinoyghost2 Planted Tank Obsessed (View User Tanks) PTrader: (3/100%) Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: NY Posts: 357	Not a problem, actually I bred some extremely fancy half-arabians that won World and Regional/National titles....very proud of myself. I also bred the 1st Palomino Anglo-Arab horse in North America. I did make a good lot of money off my horse breeding/selling, but then the bottom dropped out of the market (cost of hay, gas for transportation, too high show fees etc) and I split with my partner, so got out of it. I went back to breeding Bettas, then one day at an auction I saw these little red shrimps cool...bought them and that was the start of the "addiction" Ive tried my hand at almost every type of shrimp, and lately the Taiwans are my thing...just had 10+ BKK babies that are doing real well born, so I am very excited about that. My love was the Tiger shrimp though....from Super Tigers, Reds, TT, OEBTs to BTOEs...have them all. These were not planned just a glitch in my divided tank setup...didn't know that TTs would breed with other shrimps until I found one male in with my lone Red Tiger female (was keeping her on her own till I got some more males caught out of the other tank) Too late....Cassenova TT got her first....these are her/his offspring.

01-12-2013, 12:29 AM	#29
CharleeFoxtrot Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (2/100%) Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hell, Michigan Posts: 115	That's great, I love arab crosses. We've got a garden variety Appy and a Friesian/Morgan cross. Oh, if you ever get an excess on the red tigers look me up I'd love to keep them but I can't find any.