New Tiger Shrimp Morph - White/Ghost Tiger Orange Eyes

[Bluek24a4]

Those are awesome.

[Soothing Shrimp]

Originally Posted by MABJ

I thought albinism was able to happen in any organism? Isn't it just a simple genetic mistake that eventually gets passed on?

Yepper. The simple explanation is 1) where is the gene located and 2) is it a simple recessive. ANY organism including plants can have albinism. The trick is to know if it is expressed or not. Sometimes it is apparent. Sometimes it is harder to know and educated guesses can be made.

[MABJ]

Yeah that's what I thought.

I read it somewhere. I would love to create an albino shrimp.


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[ravensgate]

ETA: Let me clarify, there have never been documented cases of LIVING albino horses because the gene responsible is lethal to horses and most die in utero or within 48 hours of birth. So yes while it CAN happen, the majority of us will never see it. I would expect this would be true for more than just horses and that the animals are so weak they don't live long past birth.

[james0816]

Hmmm....the only tank I have that I can use is my O. cocama tank that has Caridina propinqua in it. Might be my only option. I can probably let it ride for now and get another 10g setup but not fancy to the idea of a new tank setup for this.

[Bananariot]

Originally Posted by ravensgate

Seriously not trying to derail but I can tell you without a doubt there has never been a documented true albino horse. Again, not just a casual 'reader' of equine genetics.

From what I hear it's not that they don't exist. It's that they die and albinism in horses have been linked to gastrointestinal issues as well as other fatal problems.

[Soothing Shrimp]

Similar to albino bettas then. The albino bettas popped up in 1927 and 1953 but were so weak they died before a breeding could be established. In 1994 a stronger albino finally popped up and got established into a strain.

[ravensgate]

Originally Posted by Bananariot

From what I hear it's not that they don't exist. It's that they die and albinism in horses have been linked to gastrointestinal issues as well as other fatal problems.

Yes I went back and edited my post. There has never been a LIVING albino horse documented because they die in utero or within 48 hours of birth. The W gene is thought to be lethal in horses. And as far as I know the foals that have lived to 48 hours have not been documented as albinos, only suspected.

[MABJ]

Jamie, I know next to nothing about horses other than they're really neat lol.

I'd just assume there's multiple ways for albinism to pop up? Maybe eventually there will be an albino horse.

That wasn't my point. I just wanted to reaffirm my thought that everything in the world can have an albino trait.

Which it was right. I'd be sad if albino shrimp died as eggs :/


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[hedge_fund]

I didn't read the above comments so maybe this has already been answered. The shrimp looks sick to me. Are the antennae the same exact length as the other normal looking shrimp?

http://www.shrimpnow.com/content.php...rial-Infection

I'm just taking a guess here....but look at the before last pic how the infection changed the color on the red tiger shrimp.

[ravensgate]

Originally Posted by hedge_fund

I didn't read the above comments so maybe this has already been answered. The shrimp looks sick to me. Are the antennae the same exact length as the other normal looking shrimp?

http://www.shrimpnow.com/content.php...rial-Infection

I'm just taking a guess here....but look at the before last pic how the infection changed the color on the red tiger shrimp.

But the bacterial infection wouldn't affect the eye color would it? That last photo is an OEBT/red tiger cross which would explain the orange eyes.

[Soothing Shrimp]

I think I'd agree with ravensgate on this. Plus for the color to vanish that much they'd have cloudy bodies by now.

[james0816]

perfectly healthy shrimp and not crossed with any other caridinas.

[Xforce]

Isn't that a blond orange eyed tiger shrimp ?
looks the same shrimp you get can get once in a while with OEBT

[pinoyghost2]

No its not a blonde OEBT...blondes are not white at all but a very pale blue that can't really be seen without some fancy lighting/camera skills.

That shrimp is WHITE no doubt about that! If its not a bacterial infection and I would move them to a separate area just in case, then I would do ask suggested and put one or two regular TT females in with these 2 white males and see what comes out of the next generation. What do you have to lose? If they die, then you know it was bacterial, if they reproduce and you get white again with orange eyes then you have something wonderful happening.

Isn't that what this hobby is all about! After all that's what Micha Nadal is doing with his hybrid shrimps and the World is watching his creations....go for it.

If you don't want to try, sell them to me and I will do it.