What can I drop inside a tank to kill all invertebrates?

wicca27 · 12-30-2012, 05:50 AM

pardon my stupidity but can some one post a pic i did google but they look pretty big so i think they might be something other than what google is bringing up

**Jeffww** · 12-30-2012, 06:03 AM

Something that eats shrimp...

**sayurasem** · 12-30-2012, 06:44 AM

No one mentioned this yet... CO2. I use this method to kill all the scuds.

Overdose your tank with co2 gas for 24 hour. Filter, heater and lights off. Lay a layer or two Saran Wrap on top of the water surface (maximizing co2 concentration in the water). Basically it.

This worked for me so far when I'm trying to transfer all my plants from an infested tank. This is also what I do to quarantine new plants from anywhere I bought. The best thing about this method is chemical free so plants won't be affected.

auban · 12-30-2012, 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sayurasem

No one mentioned this yet... CO2. I use this method to kill all the scuds.

Overdose your tank with co2 gas for 24 hour. Filter, heater and lights off. Lay a layer or two Saran Wrap on top of the water surface (maximizing co2 concentration in the water). Basically it.

This worked for me so far when I'm trying to transfer all my plants from an infested tank. This is also what I do to quarantine new plants from anywhere I bought. The best thing about this method is chemical free so plants won't be affected.

+1

i have done the exact same thing with a couple bottles of club soda. eliminated all of my scuds.

i used to culture them as live food, but got tired of their wily ways...

it also works great for snails.

pinoyghost2 · 12-30-2012, 12:19 PM

I can lend you Bonnie and Clyde

this is my Golden Wonder Killifish pair. I wanted to clean out a couple of my shrimp tanks from being overrun with scuds/water fleas/planaria whatever.....took out the shrimp that I could see, and dropped Bonnie/Clyde in for what I thought would be a day or two.

Next am they were both at the front of the glass wanting snacks

seems they ATE everything alive in the tank...and I mean everything, not a snail, planaria, aquatic creature of any kind lived after 24 hours, why I nicknamed them B/C.

I have since used them on more tanks to do the same and its amazing.

Sorry Im not close enough, but maybe someone else has a couple Killifish you could borrow for a day or so.

**hedge_fund** · 12-30-2012, 01:39 PM

Thanks all. Bonnie and Clyde sound like a perfect too but they'll probably eat some of my endler babies too. haha.

I'll be heading out to Petco some time today and if I cannot find AlgaeFix then I will go the Co2 route with cyran wrap on top of the tank.....I have a decent amount of floaters and I'm afraid that one of these savages would just sit on top anchored to a floater getting free oxygen.

**hedge_fund** · 12-30-2012, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by wicca27

pardon my stupidity but can some one post a pic i did google but they look pretty big so i think they might be something other than what google is bringing up

here is a great thread on it with pics....scroll down

http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=184580

CharleeFoxtrot · 12-30-2012, 01:57 PM

Nuke 'em from orbit-it's the only way to be sure

Seriously, if you do decide to use any copper-based medication you have to be very careful if you ever want to reuse the tank for inverts in the future.

**hedge_fund** · 12-30-2012, 06:34 PM

Boom. Can't wait to add it.

Oh, and I almost purchased this beta. Much better in person.

**MABJ** · 12-30-2012, 07:14 PM

I was about I write a semi scathing response about killing off shrimp needlessly, but I read the reasonable explanation about the cockroaches.

Kinda sad, but it almost seems necessary.

Disappointing, as I wanted scuds for my tank. I don't think I want them now.

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**hedge_fund** · 12-30-2012, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MABJ

Disappointing, as I wanted scuds for my tank. I don't think I want them now.

MABJ's iDevice used for this message :p

Do not under any circumstances add scuds to your shrimp or moss tank. You will definitely regret it down the road when they take over your tank and you have more scuds than shrimp. They are pretty ugly too.

**MABJ** · 12-30-2012, 07:42 PM

Yeah it is the general feeling about them around here, so I'll take the advice. I like most inverts. Only inverts I've disliked so far was anything worm like. Planaria for example.

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jone · 12-30-2012, 11:27 PM

I hate scuds..I have not been able to find any pictures for comparison between seed shrimp and scuds..I have something in my tank but cannot diferentiate between the two...

GeToChKn · 12-30-2012, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jone

I hate scuds..I have not been able to find any pictures for comparison between seed shrimp and scuds..I have something in my tank but cannot diferentiate between the two...

Seed shrimp are like little dots, can barely see them. Scuds look like potato bugs.

**hedge_fund** · 12-31-2012, 12:45 AM

I can confirm that AlgaeFix will kill inverts. I scooped out a few scuds and shrimp. Put them in a cup and poured two drops of this stuff....everything is dead 1 hour later. Obviously I did a lower concentration for the tank so it might take a few days before things start dying off.

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MABJ Invert Warrior (View User Tanks) PTrader: (11/100%) Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: NY Posts: 3,078	I was about I write a semi scathing response about killing off shrimp needlessly, but I read the reasonable explanation about the cockroaches. Kinda sad, but it almost seems necessary. Disappointing, as I wanted scuds for my tank. I don't think I want them now. MABJ's iDevice used for this message :p __________________ Check out my tanks: \|18" Long moss and shrimp tank \|10" Tall CRS tank \| 8" Tall crayfish tank \| .5 Gallon cube \| New to shrimp? Need help? Check out these threads: \|Essential tools to buy\|List of inverts\|Sage advice\| Mark A Belcher Junior, A proud member: DBP Club

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MABJ Invert Warrior (View User Tanks) PTrader: (11/100%) Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: NY Posts: 3,078	Yeah it is the general feeling about them around here, so I'll take the advice. I like most inverts. Only inverts I've disliked so far was anything worm like. Planaria for example. MABJ's iDevice used for this message :p __________________ Check out my tanks: \|18" Long moss and shrimp tank \|10" Tall CRS tank \| 8" Tall crayfish tank \| .5 Gallon cube \| New to shrimp? Need help? Check out these threads: \|Essential tools to buy\|List of inverts\|Sage advice\| Mark A Belcher Junior, A proud member: DBP Club

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12-30-2012, 05:50 AM	#31
wicca27 Planted Tank Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (2/100%) Join Date: May 2009 Location: Fort Knox Posts: 2,677	pardon my stupidity but can some one post a pic i did google but they look pretty big so i think they might be something other than what google is bringing up

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Jeffww Microsynodontis Lover (View User Tanks) PTrader: (9/100%) Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Houston Posts: 2,081	Something that eats shrimp...

12-30-2012, 12:19 PM	#35
pinoyghost2 Planted Tank Obsessed (View User Tanks) PTrader: (2/100%) Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: NY Posts: 314	I can lend you Bonnie and Clyde this is my Golden Wonder Killifish pair. I wanted to clean out a couple of my shrimp tanks from being overrun with scuds/water fleas/planaria whatever.....took out the shrimp that I could see, and dropped Bonnie/Clyde in for what I thought would be a day or two. Next am they were both at the front of the glass wanting snacks seems they ATE everything alive in the tank...and I mean everything, not a snail, planaria, aquatic creature of any kind lived after 24 hours, why I nicknamed them B/C. I have since used them on more tanks to do the same and its amazing. Sorry Im not close enough, but maybe someone else has a couple Killifish you could borrow for a day or so.

12-30-2012, 01:39 PM	#36
hedge_fund Planted Tank Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (57/100%) Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Greenwich, CT Posts: 2,579	Thanks all. Bonnie and Clyde sound like a perfect too but they'll probably eat some of my endler babies too. haha. I'll be heading out to Petco some time today and if I cannot find AlgaeFix then I will go the Co2 route with cyran wrap on top of the tank.....I have a decent amount of floaters and I'm afraid that one of these savages would just sit on top anchored to a floater getting free oxygen.

12-30-2012, 01:57 PM	#38
CharleeFoxtrot Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (2/100%) Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hell, Michigan Posts: 115	Nuke 'em from orbit-it's the only way to be sure Seriously, if you do decide to use any copper-based medication you have to be very careful if you ever want to reuse the tank for inverts in the future.

12-30-2012, 06:34 PM	#39
hedge_fund Planted Tank Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (57/100%) Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Greenwich, CT Posts: 2,579	Boom. Can't wait to add it. Oh, and I almost purchased this beta. Much better in person.

12-30-2012, 11:27 PM	#43
jone Planted Member (View User Tanks) PTrader: (6/100%) Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 284	I hate scuds..I have not been able to find any pictures for comparison between seed shrimp and scuds..I have something in my tank but cannot diferentiate between the two...

12-31-2012, 12:45 AM	#45
hedge_fund Planted Tank Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (57/100%) Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Greenwich, CT Posts: 2,579	I can confirm that AlgaeFix will kill inverts. I scooped out a few scuds and shrimp. Put them in a cup and poured two drops of this stuff....everything is dead 1 hour later. Obviously I did a lower concentration for the tank so it might take a few days before things start dying off.