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Old 09-01-2008, 02:04 AM   #16
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I visited the Dallas Bonsai warehouse a few weekends ago, before I left for school.

The guy there was totally unhelpful and even a bit of a jerk... they had some medium rocks that looked a lot like Seiryu stone, but they wanted 150.00-200.00 PER STONE, and they wouldn't let me touch them. I asked to see the black granite they listed on the website and they brought out something he called "whisky rock". I don't even think it was a natural rock... very ugly stuff.
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Old 09-05-2008, 07:42 PM   #17
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Good job you are doing there guys.

Lol about a month back I did like 8 hours of research on these rare rocks. I came up with a lot of info.

Also a while back i talked with screename who was selling about 1000lbs of seiryu stones. He told me that he got all the stones from a neighbor where the rocks were just piled up and sitting there. The Neighbors husband unfortunately no longer with us and he was the one who went to China and got the stones and shipped about 10000 lbs back.

Also I have done a lot of research on Manten stone.

Unfortunately I don't think I have a lot of links to what I found. I will post what I have later on though to add to this.

Also Discus I would love to hear more about your findings.
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Old 12-17-2012, 02:30 AM   #18
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Good job you are doing there guys.

Lol about a month back I did like 8 hours of research on these rare rocks. I came up with a lot of info.

Also a while back i talked with screename who was selling about 1000lbs of seiryu stones. He told me that he got all the stones from a neighbor where the rocks were just piled up and sitting there. The Neighbors husband unfortunately no longer with us and he was the one who went to China and got the stones and shipped about 10000 lbs back.

Also I have done a lot of research on Manten stone.

Unfortunately I don't think I have a lot of links to what I found. I will post what I have later on though to add to this.

Also Discus I would love to hear more about your findings.

Any update on more findings? Im trying to find a place to source ADA like stones in NJ. The closes I have is Moss, rock or gray stone.
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Old 12-17-2012, 03:12 AM   #19
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Anyone have any information on maten-seki stone?
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Any update on more findings? Im trying to find a place to source ADA like stones in NJ. The closes I have is Moss, rock or gray stone.
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Old 12-27-2012, 03:53 AM   #21
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Look in all the landscape, masonry, soils, brick... yards anywhere near you.
Many of the stones are shipped all over the USA, and the more unusual (read high priced) are shipped from all over the world.

The rock yards will call the rock by all sorts of different names.
You simply have to go see what they have. No use making phone calls, and do not ask for any rock by any name known in the aquarium trade.

Sometimes you will get a really knowledgeable person who can tell you some of the alternate names of a rock as it may be known in the landscape trade. You might use that name when calling some other store.

I do not know the geological origins of most of the rocks, but getting a sample to test is a good idea.
If you have traveled a ways and need to know right away you could carry with you some acid such as the API nitrate test. If I remember correctly bottle #1 is acid that is strong enough to react with limestone and related rock.
For rock yards that are closer you could bring some zip lock baggies with you and a Sharpie pen. Look on the ground around the rock and pick up some scraps. Label it with where you got the rock and what they call it. When you return home test with acid, and also put the bits into a jar of water and test GH, KH, pH and TDS after a few days.

The more specialized the store the more expensive the rock will be. A store that sells by the truck load may also sell by the bag or by the pound. A store that only sells by the pound will usually charge more per pound. Highly likely they just went to the same rock yard to get it.
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