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Old 12-07-2012, 08:33 PM   #1
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Should I add ferts to my low tech 30g?


Because of work, life, and my 4 other tanks (which I recently tore all of them down), this 30 gallon has been a bit neglected. Now that my other tanks are gone, I'm going to refocus on this low tech setup and try to get things right.

my 30 gallon is:
Miracle grow organic mixed with laterite, capped with pool filter sand
2x21 watts of t5no light. One bulb is slightly red/pink, the other is 6700k.

Amazon swords lining 3/4 of the background
Dwarf sag and some kind of mystery crypt (red/brown squiggly short leaves) in the foreground.

Since I've rescaped so much over the past year, I've probably lost like half of my dirt substrate. So large sections of my substrate are probably 80% sand.

My tank certainly looks nice, but the plants most likely are having some kind of deficiency (couple of holes in the sword leaves that you can only see up close, and slow growing / slightly yellowed dwarf sag).

What I really want is a carpet of dwarf sag (or at least a faster growing dwarf sag) and I want my amazon swords to produce runners so that I can finish planting the background without going out and buying new amazon swords (I really just want to avoid getting a slightly different species that may or may not clash or grow differently than the swords I already have.

So I've been wondering if fert dosing is the way to go. I know about dry ferts and EI dosing and all that, but I really just want to know how effective buying a comprehensive fert (like flourish) will work in my situation and whether or not dosing liquid carbon (flourish excel) will significantly help as well.

Also, if I were to dose ferts, is my low light going to bottleneck the rest of my system and cause problems? Since I had so many other tanks, I still have tons of equipment I can use (such as lights) if I need to add them.

Thanks for any input or advice!
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Old 12-07-2012, 08:52 PM   #2
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I can't bring myself to spend money anymore on water bottles being shipped to my house. My well provides me with plenty of water.

Sand or inert substrate I use root tablet ferts. NOT spheres like osmocote but tablets that dissolve completely. Replace tablets every 3 months is what works here.
Using an older soil base this would be my plan.
(What I do here on a number of tanks)
If changing the water after a major trim or scape change making a mess then after the WC dose NO3 10ppm, PO4 2-4ppm
Trace dosing once a week CSM+B, dose K2SO4 for aprox 15ppm.
Normally NO3 and PO4 don't shift in my tanks before another WC.

Low or medium lighting this works for me.
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Old 12-07-2012, 10:26 PM   #3
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I would add carbon first, see how that goes for a week or two, then add macros, and try that for a week or two.

Liquid fertilizers: You are paying for a lot of water and not much fertilizers.

Go with the dry ferts and EI, but start with perhaps 1/4 of the dosing, maybe 1/2 just to give it a boost.
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chemical carbon substitutes aren't going to help with yellowed leaves or holes I don't believe but would aggravate any other deficiency I think.

Also answering the final question in the first post I think light limited is the best way to keep a tank.
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