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Old 12-06-2012, 05:47 PM   #16
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i am not familiar withthe product.
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Old 12-06-2012, 05:51 PM   #17
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http://www.kordon.com/kordon/rid_fungus/index.htm
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Old 12-06-2012, 08:08 PM   #18
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ah, so it is probably similar to pimafix
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Old 12-06-2012, 08:19 PM   #19
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I got the impression that Pimafix was a tree oil. This stuff is more complex I think.
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whatever it is, it's blue.
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um...does your label say Rid Fungus? Mine is brown. Definitely brown...
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Rid Ich Plus. Controls Ich and other protozoan or fungal external diseases.
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Yea, that's a totally different medicine from the one I suggested.
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Well that's what they had at the only store within 25 miles. Will it work?
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You are applying formalin and malachite green directly to a fish's skin. I am not optimistic that this tactic will be successful. Both ingredients are super irritants, one being formaldehyde, which is embalming fluid....

You never mentioned what else is in your tank. Inverts don't like malachite green either. In any case, treating the whole tank at this point wouldn't be a bad idea. Realize that malachite green will dye the silicone holding your glass together a nice green that doesn't clean off.

I don't know what Diana would recommend for spot treatment, but I would have chosen potassium permanganate solution or hydrogen peroxide dabbed on with a Q-Tip. My original suggestion for the other Kordon product was my choice because it has none of the undesirable side effects and is harmless to inverts. I feel your pain! When you need a med and you can't get to it in time, it really does suck.

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Old 12-06-2012, 10:30 PM   #26
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Spot treat:
Remove the fish from the tank and put it in a shallow dish that has enough water to cover the gills, but exposes the injury.
Put on ONE drop of H2O2. Be ready for the fish to react. (Cover the bowl so he cannot jump out).

Other materials that can be used are just about any of the vaseline based medicines like Neosporin. They are OK to put on the wound, then put the fish back in the tank.

Be careful treating any of the cats. Most have spines on the body and in the fins. In some cats the spines are actually venomous. In other cats it is not really venomous, but some slime coat and whatever bacteria are on the surface can get driven in under your skin. Wear gloves, handle with care.

That is indeed a fungus. Usually fungi only attack at a site that is already compromised, perhaps injured, cut or already the site of a bacterial invasion. Not always, though. Sometimes the fungus just gets in there.

Here is how to use a malachite green and formalin based medicine for Columnaris (a Gram negative bacteria)
A) Read all these instructions before you start. Especially #4 & 5.
1) Read the label.
2) Prepare a container that will hold 1 quart (1 liter) of water. (if that is big enough to hold the fish)
3) Put into that 1 quart of water enough medicine for 1 gallon of tank water. This is 4x the labeled dose. (So if you need to use 1/2 gallon of water, then use enough medicine for 2 gallons of tank water)
4) Catch the fish. Difficult with a cat, but for other species I would say keep him in the net. For a cat, find something more rigid that will still allow water to pass through.
5) Put the fish in the concentrated solution, while still in the net. With a cat, this is going to be tricky. They will twist and turn in the net, and will stick out their spines and get tangled in the net. It can get so bad you have to cut the net off the fish.
6) Hold the fish in the solution for only a few minutes, then remove him.
Remove him if:
He quits struggling
He turns upside down (difficult to see if he is so tangled in a net that he cannot move)
7) Put him back in the tank. If you have set up a quarantine tank, use it.

Yes, that fish is starving.
Offer a rotation of vegetables.
You can serve them raw, or you can blanch the tender ones, and cook the harder ones until barely tender.
If they are too soft they will fall apart in the tank.
Here are some things my fish like:
Yam, Pumpkin, hard squashes like Butternut (cook pretty well)
Softer vegetables like the stems of broccoli, zucchini. (Blanch)
Cucumber, most fruits like melon or strawberry (raw)
Leaf vegies like Kale and other firmer ones (Blanch)
Leaf vegies like spinach, lettuce and other tender ones (raw).

As hungry as that poor guy looks, I would offer a couple of vegies at a time so there is at least SOMETHING he will eat.
Many Plecos are like cattle or horses. They will graze all day long, a little nibble here and there, then move to the next spot and nibble some more. Their digestive tract is set up to handle food best that way. A sudden influx of food then nothing for the rest of the day is not to their advantage.
Yes, most like a little wood now and then, some seem to eat almost exclusively wood.
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only specific species, panaques, require wood in their diet. Most just use it as a delivery method for their preferred herbivorous diet.


I use panalog to spot treat, but it is only available through a vet.

Peroxide *should*work.

I have never used the above method for malachite green/formalin, but it is similar to that which i do with extreme salt baths for external parasites.

I dont know that this particular case is that severe, as it is one spot. As the above poster mentioned, generally fungus is opportunistic.
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