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Old 11-27-2012, 10:29 PM   #211
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I kept a few yoyos for a while back when I had a pond snail population explosion. I couldn't tell that they made a dent in the population much but I didn't notice any fin nipping. I have found that assassin snails work extremely well for controlling the snail population but I can't seem to keep many alive for very long with the levels of CO2 I run now It takes quite a few assassins though to effectively control the pest population. I used 12 in my 30 gallon.
Assassins are really pretty. I read that others had horrible experiences with them exploding in numbers too. And then once all the food source (other snails) were gone, the Assassins die and when all is said and done, the substrate is littered with snail shells.

I guess the best option for me is to just continue collecting them by hand. Oh well. At least they aren't gross.

I would try the Yoy loach for its beauty, but man I would hate to try and catch them in my jungle of a tank if they did start nipping. I would say that was one positive of the old scape (nearly empty). I could experiement with fish and easily net them if they became a problem. Those days are long gone. No regrets! I love my plants!!!
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Old 11-27-2012, 10:36 PM   #212
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Assissins are really pretty. I read that others had horrible experiences with them exploding in numbers too. And then once all the food source (other snails) were gone, the Assins die and when all is said and done, the substrate is littered with snail shells.

I guess the best option for me is to just continue collecting them by hand. Oh well. At least they aren't gross.

I would try the Yoy loach for its beauty, but man I would hate to try and catch them in my jungle of a tank if they did start nipping. I would say that was one positive of the old scape (nearly empty). I could experiement with fish and easily net them if they became a problem. Those days are long gone. No regrets! I love my plants!!!
I have a friend that has assassins that are breeding. I wouldn't call it exploding in numbers though. Assassins are a non-hermaphroditic snail, so it does require a male and a female to breed, plus I think they take longer to mature. I think they're really pretty too. I just wish I could keep a crew of 5 or 6 of them alive in my high CO2 environment. I have tiny ramshorns (not on purpose). I feed sparingly and squash any that I see on the glass. Sometimes I'll collect them by hand if I have the time. I've managed to keep them under control so far but I would like to get rid of them all together so I didn't have to worry about them at all.
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Old 11-27-2012, 11:31 PM   #213
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I have Botia kubotai and Golden Dojos in my snail-control tank. They are hilarious fish to watch and they co-exist peacefully with the rest of the fish. They are very sociable, you need at least 3 B. kubotai. 2 Golden Dojos will do fine. What snails?

B. kubotai hide a lot, while Dojo are all over the tank. I bet the kids will love them. You can get them at PetSmart.
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Old 11-27-2012, 11:48 PM   #214
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I have a friend that has assassins that are breeding. I wouldn't call it exploding in numbers though. Assassins are a non-hermaphroditic snail, so it does require a male and a female to breed, plus I think they take longer to mature. I think they're really pretty too. I just wish I could keep a crew of 5 or 6 of them alive in my high CO2 environment. I have tiny ramshorns (not on purpose). I feed sparingly and squash any that I see on the glass. Sometimes I'll collect them by hand if I have the time. I've managed to keep them under control so far but I would like to get rid of them all together so I didn't have to worry about them at all.
Of course the Co2 only affects the snails you want to keep. The ramshorns love cucumber. Peel the skin off and slice length wise. You don't have to wait long and it'll be covered! Then carefully scoop it out. Walla! That many less ramshorns

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I have Botia kubotai and Golden Dojos in my snail-control tank. They are hilarious fish to watch and they co-exist peacefully with the rest of the fish. They are very sociable, you need at least 3 B. kubotai. 2 Golden Dojos will do fine. What snails?

B. kubotai hide a lot, while Dojo are all over the tank. I bet the kids will love them. You can get them at PetSmart.
Hmmm...going to look them up now. Be back uno momento!
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Old 11-27-2012, 11:54 PM   #215
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I'm back! Love the Botia kubotai. Too bad they are illuanksive. I had looked into the dojo loach awhile back and read other folks had no luck with them eating snails. You must? My eldest daughter loves these loaches and she would be quite happy to see some in the tank. Thanks OVT! You always know just what to suggest somehow!
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Of course the Co2 only affects the snails you want to keep. The ramshorns love cucumber. Peel the skin off and slice length wise. You don't have to wait long and it'll be covered! Then carefully scoop it out. Walla! That many less ramshorns
I'll have to try that. Do you use anything to make the cucumber sink or does it sink on it's own?
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Old 11-28-2012, 12:16 AM   #217
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I leave my skins on the cucumber my nerites love it. I sharpened a small branch of my manzanita and stick it on there
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Old 11-28-2012, 12:34 AM   #218
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I'll have to try that. Do you use anything to make the cucumber sink or does it sink on it's own?
I just put it in and the nerites climb the sides to get to it, then once there are a ton, it sinks to the bottom. I thought about putting a stone on one end, but just don't ever feel like sticking my arm all the way to the pit in the water.

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I leave my skins on the cucumber my nerites love it. I sharpened a small branch of my manzanita and stick it on there
I just always peeled the skin because of the chance of pesticides I missed in the rinsing. Probably a bit ridiculous I guess. Wouldn't be muah otherwise
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I'm not worried about the pesticides I boil it first
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Ahhhh, okay that works .
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Old 11-28-2012, 03:45 AM   #221
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i wouldn't think that boiling it will neutralize a pesticide. if anything, i would imagine the chemical would leech off in the boiling water which makes you, in essence, boiling them in their own poison. boiling only kills living organisms
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i wouldn't think that boiling it will neutralize a pesticide. if anything, i would imagine the chemical would leech off in the boiling water which makes you, in essence, boiling them in their own poison. boiling only kills living organisms
Hm. that's a point too. I prefer to just peel them
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love what you've done to this tank, great wood!

did someone mention dobies?
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Thank you Meggan Do you have a dobie too????
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Got some more pics...still not the best quality, but until I get a camera (or learn to take better pics with my phone) this is all I have to offer



A little 1-gallon bowl betta in a much better world


4' of tank and they're clustered in a corner


Off into the deep dark woods



I love "My-Blue"


Look! It's a snail


And the Angel returns from the dark forest! (I love that they can vanish )


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