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Old 11-04-2012, 11:41 PM   #1
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New Fluval Spec


Finally got one yesterday and will set it up in a couple of months after deciding on how to set up a small tank again.

A couple of questions:

1. Can I use a timer on the LED light switch? The lights will have to have a timer.
2. Has anyone ever used these lights: http://www.sunblasterlighting.com/
they're for growing plants. They come in 24w - 54W @ 6400K. Could be interesting.
3. Heater. small tank, tropical fish, but it may depend on the lighting.
4. CO2. I have stuff left over from my 66 gal. I'll use that.
5. Best way to cycle the tank. I was thinking of using the medium from my prev tank, but I did have a horrible algae problem. That was the reason I tore it down.
6. I've read that this light supplied has a flimsy bracket and holder. Anyone had problems with theirs? If so, I'll just redesign it.

On my 66 gallon I had before, I used 4 x 40 W T20 bulbs and had 160 W with 2 different bulb types. I'm basically going again for the Amano style tank again, but since I'm limited to a small tank for space, I'm deciding on what lighting to use. Substrate will be the Fluval substrate for planted tanks.
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Old 11-06-2012, 10:59 PM   #2
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You can use a timer for your LED lights. I have one for my LED lights, and there are no problems.

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Old 11-08-2012, 03:26 AM   #3
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If your talking about the 5g spec, I just bought one this week. For the heater I cut the filter sponge in half and put the heater in the back.
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Old 11-08-2012, 06:24 AM   #4
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If you have the 5g spec, you can check my setup here;

http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=196162

light : Finnex Fugeray LED 16" on timer 7hrs a day. stock LED is okay i guess, but it's a little weak and like you mentioned i did have problem with the screw holding the light, decided to replace it.

heater : hydor theo 25w. or basically any small heater that you can fit in the back part, works for me so far

substrate : netlea aquasoil

CO2 : paintball regulator on it's way

I'm still cycling my tank, it's been 3 weeks now. Minor algae and diatom issue, nothing serious so far, but the PH is kinda low, still waiting for it to go up


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Old 11-11-2012, 05:32 PM   #5
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Thanks for the info.
Decided to go with ADA Amazonia. 4 L of it should do well.
Found a heater that will easily fir in the back of the tank. Anyone ever used the product Bactor 100 & Penac W for cycling the tank? I've been told this is the way to go.
Lighting will probably by CF's since my space is very limited. Any recommendations on which to get?

Anyone used or made a paintball CO2 setup? I have a regulator and solenoid value that I used on my 66 gallon, but that's going to be over kill on this small tank. I was thinking of using a paintball CO2 cylinder and somehow set that up. Anyone done this before?

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Old 11-11-2012, 08:33 PM   #6
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Anyone used or made a paintball CO2 setup? I have a regulator and solenoid value that I used on my 66 gallon, but that's going to be over kill on this small tank. I was thinking of using a paintball CO2 cylinder and somehow set that up. Anyone done this before?

I got a paintball co2 setup, and it's been running for about 3 days now. I set it to about one bubble per 2 second, looking good so far, at least the shrimps are fine.

I'm using atomic paintball regulator v2, and atomic diffuser.
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Old 11-12-2012, 02:00 AM   #7
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cant wait for pics i love them tanks
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Old 11-12-2012, 05:46 PM   #8
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Well, I did some digging around and found about 90% of my supplies from the old setup, but I can't find my bubble counter and diffuser or solenoid. I'll have to do some more searching.

I did pickup an interesting LED light strip set from Home Depot yesterday for $79. 3 3W strips running on 12 volts DC. The only thing I need to do now is wire them so that they will all light up as separate strips. The one I have is meant to be a single 3' strip, not 3 1' ones. The company is called Illume. Pretty bright and hopefully this will work out.
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Old 11-15-2012, 01:02 AM   #9
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Got it filled with substrate and added some petrified wood I had. Starting the cycle and will build an LED light fixture this weekend. I noticed that the stock LED light that came with it is not going to cut it. Plus, the power supply gets up to about 46 degrees C. So that is not an option. I returned the 3 strip LED lights and bought a double set. I'll also use some super brights that I have and mix the 2 different ones and see how that goes.
Now just to find my CO2 diffuser and solenoid and bubble counter.
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Old 11-18-2012, 12:23 AM   #10
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I did some scratching around today at a local fish store and got a Marineland double bright LED strip for the tank. Looks not too bad. I'll keep the other LED strips to see if this is bright enough.

I also noticed the Fluval all in 1 CO2 88 kit. Like I mentioned before, with my old setup, it would be over kill with a 20 lb tank and setup. Has anyone used this system before? Adapters to convert a smaller paintball tank to use the regulator?

Anyone ever bought Aquaflora plants before? I was looking at these.

Plants go in tomorrow.
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Old 11-18-2012, 01:03 AM   #11
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I used the Fluval 88 for a little while, it works ok and is surprisingly easy to adjust but the cartridges will bleed you dry.

There is hope however, what I did is buy a fitting at Home Depot, a Watts brand A-182.
This is a 3/8" Flare x 1/4" MIP half union.
It will thread into the Fluval regulator/needle valve and the other end can thread into a paintball ASA adaptor, similar to this one but way cheaper on ebay
http://www.paintball-discounters.com...on-off-asa.htm

Then you should be able to use the Fluval regulator/needle valve on a paintball tank which is obviously much much smaller than a standard reg/cylinder combo.
One thing to note, I have not personally done this yet so I can't guarantee it's performance but I have seen it done online several times so you won't be pioneering anything.

Alternatively since I think you are in Canada, you could go to Princess Auto and see if they have any Jac-pac kits. This is a regulator designed to work on paintball cylinders, it's nice and compact and works great, all you need to do is remove the quick connector and add the post body kit of your choice. Princess Auto near me sells the Jac-pac for about $30 and it's well worth the money if you want to do paintball sized CO2.
I'm told that Lowes in the United States sells a similar kit but I haven't seen it in Canada.
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Old 11-18-2012, 06:12 PM   #12
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Yes, I do live in Canada. Is this the Watts brand A-182 fitting? Will I need another connector to the paintball CO2 tank?

I"ll have a look around. The 20 oz paintball tanks at Crappy tire were about $47. I'll have a look at Princess Auto.
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Yes, I do live in Canada. Is this the Watts brand A-182 fitting? Will I need another connector to the paintball CO2 tank?

I"ll have a look around. The 20 oz paintball tanks at Crappy tire were about $47. I'll have a look at Princess Auto.
Yes, that's the Watts fitting in question.
You'll need an ASA adaptor like this
Should be able to find one on ebay for about $10 shipped or you can get one at a local paintball shop.

Check Kijiji for paintball cylinders, I've picked up a few 20oz for around $20 with plenty of time on their certification. Or check a paintball shop for those too.

The Watts fitting should thread into the ASA adapter which will screw onto the paintball cylinder, then you screw the Fluval regulator in and as far as I've found from reading descriptions and threads, you are good to go.

I can try to find my ASA adapter and fitting tonight and give this a test run, I know I've got all the parts, I just stopped messing with it after I got my Jac-Pac figured out.
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Old 11-20-2012, 12:31 AM   #14
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Ok, tank is planted now. Until I get the CO2 running the way I want, I'm going to be using Excel. I was going to add it daily. Suggestions on how much to use daily? 5 ml for 10 gallons and my tank is only 5 gallons. so I was thinking maybe a few drops daily. Suggestions?

Thanks for the info on the paintball tanks. I was thinking maybe a 20 oz one. I got the brass fitting now just to find my solenoid and get the ASA adaptor. I've seen them online at the paintball places. ~$25 for a tank. How much are they in the US?
Tank is cycling ok. PH is up though from the substrate. I was expecting this.
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Old 11-20-2012, 01:02 PM   #15
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Nice! Can't wait for it to grow in
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