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Old 10-25-2012, 09:55 PM   #2806
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The way to know if it is leeches is to look for circular sores on the fish
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Old 10-25-2012, 09:59 PM   #2807
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leeches can swim super fast. Like eels.
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Old 10-25-2012, 10:01 PM   #2808
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Are these sudden deaths or did you notice a change in behavior?
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Old 10-25-2012, 10:09 PM   #2809
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if you can remove all your inverts.. I have potassium permanganate which is plant safe.
my last batch of moss came with velvet, so this could be something else that came with the plants
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Old 10-25-2012, 10:23 PM   #2810
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Sudden so far as I can tell. What else do you think it might be? I was thinking maybe septicemia but it doesn't really look like it ... The red spots aren't blotchy, they're usually one large spot (so far) and under the skin, no lesions or sores as of yet. I wish I had taken some pictures before I got rid of the fish...

Sorry for gunking up this thread! D:
If there are red areas under the skin, it sounds bacterial rather than parasitic. How are the survivors? Do they have a grey film? Are they breathing hard? Lethargic?

And don't be concerned about gunking up the thread. We're all here to help each other.
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Old 10-25-2012, 11:03 PM   #2811
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if you told us earlier today.. I wouldve brought u some I was totally in your area.
despite all the claims of how harmful this stuff is supposed to be on the internet....I've managed to dose the tank just fine with guestimations and had the formosas survive.
I guess if you want to dose, you should definitely take the fish out too. give them a milder PP bath and nuke the tank with extra strength PP. it does turn your tank brown (be warned!) so if you have white sand or something ...>.>

it can however be scrubbed off the glass.
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Old 10-25-2012, 11:08 PM   #2812
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Man Im really sorry about your fish. Thats a big loss...I wonder if theres a bacteria thing? Did you clean the plants? Cuz I mean we all bought stuff from there right? Maybe not from THAT tank but I dunno how they are with crosscontamination.

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Meowkitty,

You can't starve them. They can survive months without feeding.
Your only options are to:
1) catch them all
2) or add a fish that will eat them, like a big loach, oscar, ...
3) or tear down the tank, throw away the substrate, and probably the plants too
4) or use the clout medicine. This will make your tank permanently unsafe for shrimps and snails.

When I got some, I've been lucky option 1) worked for me.
Hey PTR, clout - why permanently? Cant water change it out? I ask because we storeordered them for use and uhhh..thats not good to know.
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Old 10-25-2012, 11:17 PM   #2813
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Clout will copper-contaminate the silicone seams, at least that's what I've read.
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Old 10-25-2012, 11:40 PM   #2814
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UUUGH COMMON NAMES. Okay.

Reef King? Or reef aquarium- or aquarium king.. something...I dont even remember the name, its on 8th ave, right by the N train.
They have 2 danio species that I thought were pretty cool, Blue Red Line Danios... after some googling, they are calling it a pearl danio morph- but the scientific names are different- might be a different species, http://www.seriouslyfish.com/wp-cont...-2-288x177.jpg this is a good photo of it, the orange catches the light and shines.
Another was called the Lake Line Danio and...I dont even remember what it looks like, maybe albert remembers.
CRS for about 7.50, good looking cherries for 4?

The one on ave U, aquarium gallery or something E 15 had what the lady insisted were Flying Foxes, but I thought was a SAE. 3.50? And they had ick. Still pygmie cories for $3. Then again, Im reading this: http://www.aquariacentral.com/forums...e-Eater-Owners! and arrrgh what!? I dont want my moss to be eaten.
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Old 10-25-2012, 11:42 PM   #2815
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Sorry about your fish Kitty.
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Old 10-26-2012, 12:11 AM   #2816
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Been looking up parasites online. I think now by looking at some pics, what I had in my plants were planaria
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Old 10-26-2012, 12:28 AM   #2817
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Been looking up parasites online. I think now by looking at some pics, what I had in my plants were planaria
LOL. I can give you more!

none in my betta's tanks though. they get eaten XD
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Old 10-26-2012, 12:35 AM   #2818
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Planaria won't harm your fishes. They look very different from leeches, planarias have a triangle head, and they move by gliding on the glass or the substrate. Leeches swim in a eel-like motion.
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Old 10-26-2012, 12:52 AM   #2819
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I've had leeches come with my blackworms before. They are usually grey or brown and are about 1cm long. They can contract and become smaller, being hard to see. They would decimate my blackworms before I could feed them to my fish.
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Old 10-26-2012, 01:04 AM   #2820
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Also planaria curls up into a dot whenever it provoked, making it almost invisible
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