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Old 10-22-2012, 04:57 PM   #31
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I'm glad your just upset about this instead of a mayor disaster.

Take some time to check or improve this problem tho. Right?
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Old 10-22-2012, 05:41 PM   #32
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You already reported were it matter the most to US the people that use the product.

UL's job is to test what the manufactors PAY them to test, nothing more/nothing less. There function is to be an independent source of info...period.

There are consumer safety boards/ services. But, how many of us ever use them to research a purchase. You folks are my research team. I go to fellow
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I would contact the company that made the fixture. Maybe they have a GENII replacement ballast. I would not put the same design ballast in that fixture.
Very true, i have already contacted the company that produces it, curious to see what they say.




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I'm glad your just upset about this instead of a mayor disaster.

Take some time to check or improve this problem tho. Right?
Absolutely!!


I will definitely be looking into some other ballasts or Since i already have a handy aluminum housing... May try and custom build some LEDs!!

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Old 10-22-2012, 05:50 PM   #33
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Rapid leds all the way!

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Old 10-22-2012, 06:08 PM   #34
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I second the other poster who said LEDs don't do it for them - I've seen lots, but even the ultra high-end ones just seem to be missing something aesthetically.

You should just DIY a new ballast (or all new light fixture). The ballasts the manufacturers use are the bottom of the line. Just use high quality ballasts instead of generic el cheapos and you'll be fine.

On that note, I heartily recommend workhorse ballasts: http://www.lightingsupply.com/ballas...-ballasts.aspx
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Old 10-22-2012, 06:30 PM   #35
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I think one problem with a lot of the current pre built LEDs is they tend to be all one spectrum, like the finnex 7000k, doesn't mean they are bad just doesn't cover as much of the spectrum.

I had looked at the work horse ballasts a long time ago, might be time for another look!

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Old 10-22-2012, 06:33 PM   #36
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It hard to tell from the overhead picture but did the bigger capacitor at the right of the damaged area split so that it spewed the contents? Some electronic designs put that type of capacitor inside a shield so that there is less damage to the board but that is usually on high end stuff that somebody might expect to repair. It would not be worthwhile on something of this price. That would explain the size of the burned area but just looking at the outside of the casing, it would look like things worked as they should.
It would be great if things never failed but when they do it is good to see that the safety measures are working. Depending on what component breaks down, it is not unusual for several items in a row to burn. Why they fail is always an open question but power surges or low voltage can do strange things. Putting things in metal cases is one way to help keep fire from spreading. That computer tower beside you may have a metal cover for several reasons. While it is scary to think that we are keeping this much danger so close, most of us would not want to go long without electricity.
If we wanted to live hazard free, we would never ride in a car.
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Old 10-22-2012, 06:41 PM   #37
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I think one problem with a lot of the current pre built LEDs is they tend to be all one spectrum, like the finnex 7000k, doesn't mean they are bad just doesn't cover as much of the spectrum.

I had looked at the work horse ballasts a long time ago, might be time for another look!
Oh I quite agree - I don't think there's anything wrong with LEDs (they obviously grow plants just great), they just don't give me the look I want. Even the ones that mix up the colours of LEDs still don't look quite right to me. It's purely an aesthetics issue.

IME workhorses are great - I've got several (oldest has been running for over 10 years) and haven't had any problems. I particularly like their low profile design, makes it easy to find space for them.
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Old 10-22-2012, 06:52 PM   #38
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Oh I quite agree - I don't think there's anything wrong with LEDs (they obviously grow plants just great), they just don't give me the look I want. Even the ones that mix up the colours of LEDs still don't look quite right to me. It's purely an aesthetics issue.....
Yes Sir they do grow our plants very well. I do agree they just are not perfect yet. Lowe at Finnex / Schuber Wrightis working on combinations that may prove more appealing to the human eye AND still grow the plants.
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Old 10-22-2012, 06:52 PM   #39
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If we wanted to live hazard free, we would never ride in a car.
I second this but If we wanted that we would also be in a bubble. Any way glad to see your ok. This is an unfortunite side effect with technology. It isnt a mater of if but when. I would probably have been just as mad but be glad the house is still standing.

Hope you get another balast, or fixture going.

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Curious was that ballast plugged into a GFCI? If so, it might have happened anyway since the failure may have created an open instead of a short.
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Old 10-22-2012, 07:05 PM   #41
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Curious was that ballast plugged into a GFCI? If so, it might have happened anyway since the failure may have created an open instead of a short.

True, but then opens rarely cause things to melt. The GFCI would not prevent the failure in either case. It might just have been less dramatic. I used to assume that shorts would cause the breaker to trip but that is no so. Breakers are pretty much slow motion compared to GFCI. Both are good but none are fail-safe.
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Old 10-22-2012, 08:19 PM   #42
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The product is no doubt listed with Underwriter's Laboratories (UL Listed). Report the problem to UL with the pictures that you posted here; doing so may help save a family's life!
UL listed (passed their testing) all have UL tags on them.
I've never found one on an Odyssea product.

Or several other less expensive "knock off" type products.
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