Help! My Gourami has a problem.

**Wannaberooted** · 10-12-2012, 05:48 AM

My Dwarf Gourami has a wound I spotted a couple days ago, and after several hours of reading and looking at pictures of diseases I still have no idea what it is.

I did a 50% water change and replaced the filter cartridge, but water tests weren't that bad to begin with. I'm at 0 ammonia and nitrites, 10 nitrates right now. I also added some Stresscoat.

I saw him scratch against the Lace Java Ferns and the side of the tank a couple times but otherwise he has been acting and eating normally. But today he's skittish, and has been hiding which he practically never does. He did eat though. Here's some pictures, they weren't easy to get and sorry if they are blurry.

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Anybody have any idea what it could be and what the proper treatment would be? Thanks much for any help!

steven p · 10-12-2012, 07:02 AM

no clue, but keep doing what youre doing. feed properly and keep the water in check.

when was the last time he was with other fish or fish that may have bullied it?

**Wannaberooted** · 10-12-2012, 08:43 AM

He's the king of the tank. He's with 10 Harlequin Rasboras and three Peppered Corys, they never mess with him. I was thinking anchor worms or a bacteria infection, but nothing seems to fit.

steven p · 10-12-2012, 09:41 AM

Strange, how long have you had him? Cory cats are decked out in spines and armor, any chance your DG got a little too friendly with one?

Also, any rocks or driftwood he couldve caught on? My dwarf gourami goes nuts on nematodes in the tank, I wouldnt be too surprised if he skewered himself some day.

ADJAquariums · 10-12-2012, 08:44 PM

it looks like an abrasion almost... is there anything sharp or pointy in the tank he could have rubbed against?

Cynical Fish Guy · 10-13-2012, 01:26 AM

First thought was an abrasion against the coral/rock seen in picture 2. My gouramis go off in wild tangents from time to time, kind of like my corys

**Wannaberooted** · 10-13-2012, 02:38 AM

Well, he's back to his wiggly self today, staring at me and begging for food. I've had him four months. Yesterday I couldn't even take a close look, he would dart away to the back behind the plants, and he spent a good amount of time inside the cave. I did add the last of my Sresscoat last night, I'll have to get some more.

I suppose he could have ran into that fake rock, or into a Cory. I've never seen him that clumsy though. That would be great if that was all it was, as long as it heals. I don't really like that rock anyway, I'm thinking of getting some Anubias on driftwood from AquariumPlants.com to put in it's place.

Thanks everyone for the input so far. If anyone else has any ideas, feel free to pipe up.

ADJAquariums · 10-13-2012, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Wannaberooted

Well, he's back to his wiggly self today, staring at me and begging for food. I've had him four months. Yesterday I couldn't even take a close look, he would dart away to the back behind the plants, and he spent a good amount of time inside the cave. I did add the last of my Sresscoat last night, I'll have to get some more.

I suppose he could have ran into that fake rock, or into a Cory. I've never seen him that clumsy though. That would be great if that was all it was, as long as it heals. I don't really like that rock anyway, I'm thinking of getting some Anubias on driftwood from AquariumPlants.com to put in it's place.

Thanks everyone for the input so far. If anyone else has any ideas, feel free to pipe up.

If the rock is sharp theres a good chance he just bumped into it, sometimes my Gourami can be clumsy and run into stuff

And if it is an abrasion make sure it doesnt get an infection or a bacterial disease, just keep doing what your doing and keep adding the stress coat, it should help, also a water change might help a bit. Never can really hurt to do a water change

**Wannaberooted** · 10-14-2012, 04:06 AM

He does dart after the Harlequins once in a while, and though that rock isn't sharp really, I could see him doing damage to himself hitting the tallest point at his top speed. It's time for some driftwood.

He's still very active otherwise after the scare the other night, and I bought some more Stresscoat. I just hope he heals up now without any complications.

Thanks everyone!

**Wannaberooted** · 10-16-2012, 02:57 AM

He's still acting fine, and he has what looks like a scab that has been soaking in water on a human forming over the wound. It is swollen a little. Anyone know if this is a good sign? I just never had a fish wounded like this, and have no idea on the healing process.

CatSoup · 10-16-2012, 03:03 AM

Could you get a close up of the wound?

**Wannaberooted** · 10-16-2012, 04:52 AM

It wasn't easy, as he never stands still, but these are the two best out of about a dozen.

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**Wannaberooted** · 10-24-2012, 07:37 AM

I don't think he's going to last much longer. He's not moving much, and he hasn't eaten today. The wound just seams to be getting bigger and not healing. His breathing is rapid, and he goes to the surface for breaths much more often than when he was healthy. All the other fish seem just fine, and water conditions are good. Could this be Dwarf Gourami Disease? I read it can cause some sort of wound but I found no pictures, but he is lasting way longer than I thought possible.

**mistergreen** · 10-24-2012, 02:14 PM

I'd separate him and treat with antibiotics.

CatSoup · 10-24-2012, 02:38 PM

That does look bad. Poor guy.
What specific antibiotics should be used MisterGreen?

10-12-2012, 05:48 AM	#1
Wannaberooted Green is good (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Eau Claire WI Posts: 146	Help! My Gourami has a problem. My Dwarf Gourami has a wound I spotted a couple days ago, and after several hours of reading and looking at pictures of diseases I still have no idea what it is. I did a 50% water change and replaced the filter cartridge, but water tests weren't that bad to begin with. I'm at 0 ammonia and nitrites, 10 nitrates right now. I also added some Stresscoat. I saw him scratch against the Lace Java Ferns and the side of the tank a couple times but otherwise he has been acting and eating normally. But today he's skittish, and has been hiding which he practically never does. He did eat though. Here's some pictures, they weren't easy to get and sorry if they are blurry. Anybody have any idea what it could be and what the proper treatment would be? Thanks much for any help! __________________ Wouldn't you like to beside the seaside?

10-12-2012, 08:43 AM	#3
Wannaberooted Green is good (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Eau Claire WI Posts: 146	He's the king of the tank. He's with 10 Harlequin Rasboras and three Peppered Corys, they never mess with him. I was thinking anchor worms or a bacteria infection, but nothing seems to fit. __________________ Wouldn't you like to beside the seaside?

10-12-2012, 08:44 PM	#5
ADJAquariums Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (1/100%) Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Albany, New York Posts: 1,038	it looks like an abrasion almost... is there anything sharp or pointy in the tank he could have rubbed against? __________________ Feel free to correct me if i'm wrong, I often get confused :P 40 gal http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/showthread.php?p=2194146#post2194146 RAOK Club: *#99* Fluval Pimp Club: *#47*

10-13-2012, 01:26 AM	#6
Cynical Fish Guy Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 71	First thought was an abrasion against the coral/rock seen in picture 2. My gouramis go off in wild tangents from time to time, kind of like my corys __________________ "I think therefore I am."~Descartes "Wine gives courage and makes men more apt for passion."~ Ovid

10-13-2012, 02:38 AM	#7
Wannaberooted Green is good (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Eau Claire WI Posts: 146	Well, he's back to his wiggly self today, staring at me and begging for food. I've had him four months. Yesterday I couldn't even take a close look, he would dart away to the back behind the plants, and he spent a good amount of time inside the cave. I did add the last of my Sresscoat last night, I'll have to get some more. I suppose he could have ran into that fake rock, or into a Cory. I've never seen him that clumsy though. That would be great if that was all it was, as long as it heals. I don't really like that rock anyway, I'm thinking of getting some Anubias on driftwood from AquariumPlants.com to put in it's place. Thanks everyone for the input so far. If anyone else has any ideas, feel free to pipe up. __________________ Wouldn't you like to beside the seaside?

10-12-2012, 07:02 AM	#2
steven p Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: columbus, ne Posts: 1,151	no clue, but keep doing what youre doing. feed properly and keep the water in check. when was the last time he was with other fish or fish that may have bullied it?

10-12-2012, 09:41 AM	#4
steven p Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: columbus, ne Posts: 1,151	Strange, how long have you had him? Cory cats are decked out in spines and armor, any chance your DG got a little too friendly with one? Also, any rocks or driftwood he couldve caught on? My dwarf gourami goes nuts on nematodes in the tank, I wouldnt be too surprised if he skewered himself some day.

10-14-2012, 04:06 AM	#9
Wannaberooted Green is good (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Eau Claire WI Posts: 146	He does dart after the Harlequins once in a while, and though that rock isn't sharp really, I could see him doing damage to himself hitting the tallest point at his top speed. It's time for some driftwood. He's still very active otherwise after the scare the other night, and I bought some more Stresscoat. I just hope he heals up now without any complications. Thanks everyone! __________________ Wouldn't you like to beside the seaside?

10-16-2012, 02:57 AM	#10
Wannaberooted Green is good (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Eau Claire WI Posts: 146	He's still acting fine, and he has what looks like a scab that has been soaking in water on a human forming over the wound. It is swollen a little. Anyone know if this is a good sign? I just never had a fish wounded like this, and have no idea on the healing process. __________________ Wouldn't you like to beside the seaside?

10-16-2012, 03:03 AM	#11
CatSoup Planted Member (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 254	Could you get a close up of the wound?

10-16-2012, 04:52 AM	#12
Wannaberooted Green is good (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Eau Claire WI Posts: 146	It wasn't easy, as he never stands still, but these are the two best out of about a dozen. __________________ Wouldn't you like to beside the seaside?

10-24-2012, 07:37 AM	#13
Wannaberooted Green is good (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Eau Claire WI Posts: 146	I don't think he's going to last much longer. He's not moving much, and he hasn't eaten today. The wound just seams to be getting bigger and not healing. His breathing is rapid, and he goes to the surface for breaths much more often than when he was healthy. All the other fish seem just fine, and water conditions are good. Could this be Dwarf Gourami Disease? I read it can cause some sort of wound but I found no pictures, but he is lasting way longer than I thought possible. __________________ Wouldn't you like to beside the seaside?

10-24-2012, 02:14 PM	#14
mistergreen Bow ties are cool (View User Tanks) PTrader: (12/100%) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 12,949	I'd separate him and treat with antibiotics. __________________ DIY High Tech Tank forum http://aquatictechtank.net A forum dedicated to design and program aquatic tanks

10-24-2012, 02:38 PM	#15
CatSoup Planted Member (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 254	That does look bad. Poor guy. What specific antibiotics should be used MisterGreen?

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