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Old 06-07-2012, 02:59 PM   #1
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38 gallon


I've been lucky enough to receive this 38 gallon tank and stand and I've decided I want to set it up the best way I can afford. On my other tanks I've cut corners but feel like splurging on some luxuries for this one. A desire I can blame this forum for.
Eheim 2215 with inline heater and atomizer and glass lilly pipes. Some day maybe. I also want to go high light with pressurized CO2. Not sure if I need a two bulb or four bulb fixture? With dirt and sand I feel a little trapped into keeping things the same so as not to release a bunch of filth so I'd like to try one of the commercially available substrates.
Here's the tank. It's ten years old but in pretty good condition aside from the silicone having some chunks missing. I'm thinking of trimming it so it looks straight.
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Old 06-07-2012, 04:50 PM   #2
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I would suggest getting a 2 bulb fixture to make it easier to avoid algae issues from too much light.

Otherwise it sounds like a good plan.
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Old 06-07-2012, 08:31 PM   #3
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I guess I was thinking Watts per gallon, but I did some reading on that sticky post in the lighting section which I think set me straight. This will save a few bucks too.
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Old 06-08-2012, 05:15 PM   #4
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I want to go high light with pressurized CO2.
Info on DIY pressure Co2 here.
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With dirt and sand I feel a little trapped into keeping things the same so as not to release a bunch of filth
I don't have that problem with my dirt substrate, even when I moved the substrate up. I topped with river sand though.
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Eheim 2215 with inline heater and atomizer and glass lilly pipes.
Might be cheaper to get a used Eheim 2215 on Ebay. I love the Eheim. It is so quiet. Another cheap alternative is a AquaClear HOB filter.
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Old 08-30-2012, 10:45 PM   #5
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So some things are starting to come in.
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I hope to be setting this up in about two weeks. I'm going to need put livestock from my 20 in this to make room for some kribensis fry I need to separate from their parents soon. I am running the filter on my 20 gallon right now to seed it with bacteria for a couple of weeks. I was thinking if I also put about ten gallons from the twenty in the 38 when I set this up I won't need to cycle? Any thoughts on this plan?
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I've been making some drawings for this with the idea of using large rocks at intense angles.
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But since I got so much eco complete I think I might want to try and make something with high sloped sides and a little valley in the middle with lots of small rocks.
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Some of the plants I allready have in other tanks like the African Onion Plant and Rotala indica and hygrophila aungostifolia, but I'll be looking around for more dwarf hairgrass, dwarf baby tears giant hairgrass, rotala macranda, staurogyne repens, and ludwigia inclinata vesticilata cuba. Let me know if you have some extra.
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Old 09-08-2012, 12:45 AM   #6
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Is that the 20G on the rolling table? I am shocked that the wheel spindles are holding up all of the weight.
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Old 09-09-2012, 01:17 AM   #7
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Is that the 20G on the rolling table? I am shocked that the wheel spindles are holding up all of the weight.
Yes that is a 20 gallon. It was kind of a risky move looking back on it.
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Old 09-13-2012, 04:40 PM   #8
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I have the day off and am close enough to finished with the bathroom to spend some time getting ready to set up this tank.

I started with trimming the excessive and chewed up silicone, then I did a test fill and cleaned the glass inside and out:
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I bought an etched glass window covering and applied it for a background:

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The I built an inline CO2 reactor based on plans for the Rex Griggs I saw online here but I had to use a lot of different parts due to what was available at my local hardware store:
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Old 09-13-2012, 04:43 PM   #9
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That window covering is a nice touch. It'l be great for diffusing the light and making everything a little brighter.
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Old 09-13-2012, 08:53 PM   #10
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I just got back from the woods with my second batch of rocks. The first batch was light colored with a couple cool peaks and I spent about an hour trying to arrange them without being happy about any configuration. I went back to the woods to get the backup batch of darker rocks I had collected and tested with acid and within 15 minutes of rinsing them off I had a layout I liked. It's probably too many rocks and as plants grow out and I collect more they will probably gradually disappear.
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I might play around with this some more since I'll have this picture to refer back to if I don't come up with anything I like better. Any suggestions as to an overall shape, which rocks should stay and which should be excluded, repositionings...?
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Old 09-17-2012, 02:12 AM   #11
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It may be shocking to some but I painted the stand.
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Old 09-17-2012, 03:39 AM   #12
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The paint looks great to me. Sort of modernizes the stand a bit, imo.
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Old 09-17-2012, 02:38 PM   #13
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The paint looks great to me. Sort of modernizes the stand a bit, imo.
Thanks, my wife picked the color, I would have just painted it white, but this will brighten up my living room. I was hoping it would modernize it some. It's still very casual looking though I think. It would fit in well in a cabin by a lake.
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Old 09-24-2012, 01:49 AM   #14
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The tank arrives in its new location:
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The tank is partially filled with water from existing 20 gallon
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The rough outline of plants
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Water Sprite added for temporary hiding and nutrient absorption.
Fish from 20 moved over, some also moved from a thirty gallon upstairs, a new panda and a new pair of Orange Australe Killi
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20 gallon gone to the basement for rearing a brood of kribensis juveniles
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Lighting: Odysea Dual T5 fluorescent 8 hrs a day
Filter: Eheim 2215
Heater: Hydor inline 200W
CO2: GLA Choice regulator 1 bubble per second
Ferts: PPS Pro

Fauna:
Panda Cory X3
Sterbai Cory X2
Ambrocius Cory X2
Silver Hatchet fish X6
Orange Australe Killi X2
Lantern Eyed Killi X2
Rummynose Tetra X7
Gold Ram X3
Keyhole Chiclid X1
Gold White Cloud X2

Flora:
Rotala indica
Cryptocoryne spiralis
Cryptocoryne balansae
Cabomba
Hygrohila augustifolia
Heteranthia zosterfolia
Limnophila aromatica
Filigree Frill
Anubias
Bacopa
Contortion Val
African Onion Plant
Water Sprite (temporary)
Baby Tears
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Old 10-04-2012, 12:56 PM   #15
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Updated Flora:
Rotala indica
Cryptocoryne spiralis
Cryptocoryne balansae
Hygrophila 'araguaia'
Hygrohila augustifolia
Heteranthia zosterfolia
Limnophila aromatica
Filigree Frill
Contortion Val
African Onion Plant
Pogostemon erectus
Baby Tears
Staurogyne repens
Ludwigia red








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