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Old 06-06-2012, 10:08 PM   #16
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Yeah I believe you guys are right and the bottles will be impossible to seal correctly. Also right about the pressure. It said on the water pump box it pumps up to 2 feet up. (It's one made for fountains) It would probably have enough power to get it up there but I don't think it would properly distribute out the spray bar.

Sooo, I will be redesigning and looking for things to make it out of. I thought about using tupperware containers (the ones with a rubber "o" ring and they snap shut) They are easy to find and cost effective and won't flex that much so I could probably seal a lot more effectively.

lol, so by the time I end up building all of this I could probably get a Zoo Med 501 canister cheaper. I just am not sure if it would be adequate for my 10 gallon. Says "Up to 30 gal" but I've also read that that means a 30 gallon tank if it were half full (for turtles) so that equals 15 gallons. Although I do only have shrimp so it's not like they put off as much waste as fish do.

Input? DIY or Zoo med 501? lol I'm all about DIY with EVERYTHING but sometimes it's just easier and less of a headache than building something. And since it's only a 10 gallon I don't need crazy filtration. Hmm
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Old 06-07-2012, 12:15 AM   #17
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Here's a video that shows whats known as a Wendy filter, a DIY filter popular with turtle keeps but can be adapted. You also use your pump and pump water up and into some sort of trough full of bio media (BBQ lava rock, pot scrubbers, etc to keep it fully DIY) and make a basic kind of reverse wet/dry filter instead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dpt9BqpE9RU

If you're intent on DIY, there are options. The first thing it test though is how powerful your pump is going up 2 feet. If possible, take the pump, rig up some tubing, 2 90 degree elbows into another container that you know the size of, eg, 1gal pail or something then time how long it takes to fill up 1gal of water pumped at the height your filter would be at. Then you'll get an idea on how much flow your filter would get it and if your pump is capable of pumping a decent amount of water at that head height.
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Old 06-07-2012, 02:11 AM   #18
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you can build an inline filter using pvc with a 5gallon bucket using pvc pipe or hose as the overflow.

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Old 06-07-2012, 05:37 AM   #19
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Here's a video that shows whats known as a Wendy filter, a DIY filter popular with turtle keeps but can be adapted. You also use your pump and pump water up and into some sort of trough full of bio media (BBQ lava rock, pot scrubbers, etc to keep it fully DIY) and make a basic kind of reverse wet/dry filter instead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dpt9BqpE9RU

If you're intent on DIY, there are options. The first thing it test though is how powerful your pump is going up 2 feet. If possible, take the pump, rig up some tubing, 2 90 degree elbows into another container that you know the size of, eg, 1gal pail or something then time how long it takes to fill up 1gal of water pumped at the height your filter would be at. Then you'll get an idea on how much flow your filter would get it and if your pump is capable of pumping a decent amount of water at that head height.

I like the wendy filter design. I might adapt that design and incorporate it into this design. Thanks for the link! And I finally found the box to the pump and it says it puts out 80gph. That should be good right? Maximum pump height is 2.5 feet.
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I like the wendy filter design. I might adapt that design and incorporate it into this design. Thanks for the link! And I finally found the box to the pump and it says it puts out 80gph. That should be good right? Maximum pump height is 2.5 feet.
Best way is to setup the plumbing the way you want and test. Only way to get a true measurement of what it's actually pump, especially if you put foam or mesh on the intake side, that is going to reduce flow a bit.
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So I went ahead and built a more simple version of what I imagined haha. I drilled a hole in the cap slightly smaller than the hose and jammed it in and then temporarily duct taped it to do a test. I'll silicone it later or find something that will be waterproof and flexible. Also drilled four tiny holes for maximum sprayage! ha

I was surprised at the amount of current, it seems perfect for my 10 gallon. Of course when I add media (rocks, sponge bits, ceramic, w/e) it will slow the flow down a little but so far I'm pleased with it! Now just have to soak the sticker off so it's all clear and waterproof the bottle cap and bingo!

very simple design ha, so that means less can go wrong :P
OH and if anyone has any ideas for how to "pivot" this thing on top of back rim I would appreciate input! I am scratching my head trying to figure out a way that will look minimal and not crappy and on the cheap side (of course.)
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1) Possibly a slit will be better, black PVC might make setup look "cleaner", although a clear bottle might grow algea and make it a nitrate reducer!

2) How about making top slits also and adding an airstone and going for a hydroponic plant setup?
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Old 06-19-2012, 06:25 AM   #23
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woah. you just blew my mind! I am totally doing the "hydroponic" idea!! I have been wanting to grow some mangroves and I can start them in the bottle. Good idea. Hmm, this is a whole new ball game now lol. Thanks for the idea.
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If you have access to a table saw, cut two sections of PVC pipe and make a cradle of them like this, but rotated 90 degrees )( .

A drilled out tornado tube coupler will hold the bottles quite well.
You might look at Home Depot or a plumbing shop for O-rings that would fit over the mouth of the bottle, but atop the ridge below the threads. That would seal to the tornado tube coupler better.

My complaint would be how difficult it will be to put media inside the bottles.
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Hey dbosman, yeah I thought it might be difficult to add media but I just have to make sure it's tiny media. I will probably be using a mixture of porcelain tubes, rocks, cut up sponge cubes, and carbon. So most of those are pretty tiny and shouldn't be a problem fitting them in. It will be more of a problem getting them out lol but not impossible besides I rarely change filter media, just give it a good wash every now and then. Thanks for the pvc )( idea.
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