How many ottos in a 29

SMinNC · 05-02-2012, 11:10 PM

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Ladayen · 05-02-2012, 11:26 PM

1 ram- These need warm water, soft acidic water is highly beneficial
9 cardinal tetras - these would work with the ram
3 ottos- I would go with at least 5. They are social and all 7 in my 20g stay close.
4 cpd's Danio's do better in cooler water. I wouldn't recommend having them in a tank with the ram. If you do decide to do it anyhow, make it a larger school 8 at a minimum.
1 guppy- just forget the guppies. They dont work with the water parameters of the other fish, and it will just look stupid really.
1 dwarf groumi - Again I wouldn't recommend it. As already mentioned both the ram and the gourami can be aggresive. I would expect it to pass with the other fish but with the two of them it may not.

zacheyp · 05-03-2012, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Ladayen

1 ram- These need warm water, soft acidic water is highly beneficial
9 cardinal tetras - these would work with the ram
3 ottos- I would go with at least 5. They are social and all 7 in my 20g stay close.
4 cpd's Danio's do better in cooler water. I wouldn't recommend having them in a tank with the ram. If you do decide to do it anyhow, make it a larger school 8 at a minimum.
1 guppy- just forget the guppies. They dont work with the water parameters of the other fish, and it will just look stupid really.
1 dwarf groumi - Again I wouldn't recommend it. As already mentioned both the ram and the gourami can be aggresive. I would expect it to pass with the other fish but with the two of them it may not.

i really appreaciate you taking all the time to post such a great response! would the following stock list work?
7 cardials
8 cpd's
1 ram
5 ottos?

kamikazi · 05-03-2012, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by zacheyp

i really appreaciate you taking all the time to post such a great response! would the following stock list work?
7 cardials
8 cpd's
1 ram
5 ottos?

sounds good

roadmaster · 05-11-2012, 03:20 PM

CPD will NOT appreciate the warm water that rams need.
Rummy nose tetra's would be better choice.
Otocinclus will burn out within a few month's at temps much above 78 degrees F and would do much better at 75 degree's F which the Ram's (German) would fair poorly in.

zacheyp · 05-11-2012, 03:37 PM

ill switch out the ram for a baby angel. what do you guys think?

zacheyp · 05-11-2012, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by zacheyp

ill switch out the ram for a baby angel. what do you guys think?

anyone????

zacheyp · 05-12-2012, 03:30 PM

Ok guys heres the new plan. I thought the 29 would look to tall in the space i have so i went with a 20 long instead. I am now left with the question how to stock this tank. Im not getting a ram. Bellow i will give a list if the fish i like. If someone could give me an idea how to stock that would be awesome!
cardinal tetras
CPD'S
ottos
dwarf groumis
guppies

zacheyp · 05-12-2012, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zacheyp

Ok guys heres the new plan. I thought the 29 would look to tall in the space i have so i went with a 20 long instead. I am now left with the question how to stock this tank. Im not getting a ram. Bellow i will give a list if the fish i like. If someone could give me an idea how to stock that would be awesome!
cardinal tetras
CPD'S
ottos
dwarf groumis
guppies

anyone?

Diana · 05-12-2012, 08:41 PM

cardinal tetras- fine, get plenty
CPD'S- even better, if you a looking for more fish rather than larger fish (a good goal with a 20 long. But both species? Maybe not.
ottos- Good! 2-3 are OK, you may need to feed them if there is not enough algae, more would be OK, but they would quickly run out of food.
dwarf groumis- GOURAMI. Only one. They are aggressive and territorial. I would suggest the Honey (Trichogaster chuna) instead of Trichogaster lalius (Colisa lalia). The Dwarf Gourami seems to have too many disease issues to be a reliable purchase any more.
guppies- I would not try for 3 different species of schooling fish, and Guppies tend to be the highest up in the tank, perhaps causing some issues with the Gourami. Maybe not. Some Gouramis are more tolerant than others.

Overall:
Choose ONE species of schooling fish, and get plenty of them. (Cardinal Tetras or CPDs)
One display fish (Honey Gourami would be my choice, or a Betta)
A couple of algae eaters like Otos

This tank is too small to make a Noah's Ark with a couple of these and a couple of those. Make it simple, elegant.

zacheyp · 05-13-2012, 08:04 PM

is there a problem with getting cardinals and cpd's?

zacheyp · 05-14-2012, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by zacheyp

is there a problem with getting cardinals and cpd's?

anyone?

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Ladayen Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 55	1 ram- These need warm water, soft acidic water is highly beneficial 9 cardinal tetras - these would work with the ram 3 ottos- I would go with at least 5. They are social and all 7 in my 20g stay close. 4 cpd's Danio's do better in cooler water. I wouldn't recommend having them in a tank with the ram. If you do decide to do it anyhow, make it a larger school 8 at a minimum. 1 guppy- just forget the guppies. They dont work with the water parameters of the other fish, and it will just look stupid really. 1 dwarf groumi - Again I wouldn't recommend it. As already mentioned both the ram and the gourami can be aggresive. I would expect it to pass with the other fish but with the two of them it may not.

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roadmaster Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Missouri united states Posts: 695	CPD will NOT appreciate the warm water that rams need. Rummy nose tetra's would be better choice. Otocinclus will burn out within a few month's at temps much above 78 degrees F and would do much better at 75 degree's F which the Ram's (German) would fair poorly in.

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zacheyp Planted Member (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: New Jersey Posts: 172	Ok guys heres the new plan. I thought the 29 would look to tall in the space i have so i went with a 20 long instead. I am now left with the question how to stock this tank. Im not getting a ram. Bellow i will give a list if the fish i like. If someone could give me an idea how to stock that would be awesome! cardinal tetras CPD'S ottos dwarf groumis guppies

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Diana Planted Tank Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Contra Costa CA Posts: 5,013	cardinal tetras- fine, get plenty CPD'S- even better, if you a looking for more fish rather than larger fish (a good goal with a 20 long. But both species? Maybe not. ottos- Good! 2-3 are OK, you may need to feed them if there is not enough algae, more would be OK, but they would quickly run out of food. dwarf groumis- GOURAMI. Only one. They are aggressive and territorial. I would suggest the Honey (Trichogaster chuna) instead of Trichogaster lalius (Colisa lalia). The Dwarf Gourami seems to have too many disease issues to be a reliable purchase any more. guppies- I would not try for 3 different species of schooling fish, and Guppies tend to be the highest up in the tank, perhaps causing some issues with the Gourami. Maybe not. Some Gouramis are more tolerant than others. Overall: Choose ONE species of schooling fish, and get plenty of them. (Cardinal Tetras or CPDs) One display fish (Honey Gourami would be my choice, or a Betta) A couple of algae eaters like Otos This tank is too small to make a Noah's Ark with a couple of these and a couple of those. Make it simple, elegant.

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