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Old 05-03-2012, 03:47 PM   #31
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I have zero need for any more eco-complete ... is it bad that I'm thinking about starting up an old 55g tank again just because I can get Eco-Complete for such a good price?? I'm so torn ...

Lol awesome. I have a 40B that I can't even set up... no room Otherwise I would have ordered more...
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Old 05-03-2012, 05:04 PM   #32
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Whoa, I can tell you They are losing money on shipping these at that price.
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Old 05-03-2012, 05:23 PM   #33
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Bulk shipping rates + wholesale cost = profit.

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Old 05-04-2012, 03:06 AM   #34
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It isn't bad to set up another tank just because it is cheap. I ordered 100# and don't even have another tank.
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Bulk shipping rates + wholesale cost = profit.

Having negotiated with big chain stores I understand how their purchase power reflects a substantial savings over the average distributors purchasing power.

But your equation lacks a number of cost inducing loads. Honestly, that deal was one of those hot buys that are good for the hobbyist.

I get wholesale pricing on substrates to include CaribSea. But without a substantial discount from USPS or in my FedEx Ground rate, the price of our substrates gets wonky when we ship.

I am an audiophile and check a number of websites looking for deals like this. I love getting good deals. But like others here, I now have a closet full of good deals I may never get around to using.


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Old 05-07-2012, 12:38 AM   #36
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See, they got you guys to do what they wanted you to do...
They got you to buy it... for no apparent reason(even w/o a tank).

Wow, marketing is easy
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Old 05-07-2012, 01:22 AM   #37
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Not trying to argue. But mega retailers typically have better wholesale rates and negotiation power than the average reseller or mom-n-pop shop. Same goes for shipping. Those large retailers also tend to have product stored in multiple distribution centers - often operated by carriers themselves or in close partnership with carriers like UPS.

Which is, as you mentioned, great for the average hobbyist (and even hoarders like us). Especially when it comes to shipping. I've learned that over the years in my own business. Once you ship enough with a particular carrier (USPS included), you have a lot more room for negotiation. I.E., I can ship a huge amount of product from my office with UPS for maybe $20-$25. If I was shipping as an individual or smaller business, it'd cost me easily $100.

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Having negotiated with big chain stores I understand how their purchase power reflects a substantial savings over the average distributors purchasing power.

But your equation lacks a number of cost inducing loads. Honestly, that deal was one of those hot buys that are good for the hobbyist.

I get wholesale pricing on substrates to include CaribSea. But without a substantial discount from USPS or in my FedEx Ground rate, the price of our substrates gets wonky when we ship.

I am an audiophile and check a number of websites looking for deals like this. I love getting good deals. But like others here, I now have a closet full of good deals I may never get around to using.


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Old 05-07-2012, 02:04 AM   #38
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~~~, I get your point, I guess, but it sounds like you assume the only reason we purchased was because the market said we should. Maybe I go too far. I, however, am in the early stages of a 240 gallon plan. I don't have the tank, but I will. I can fund this much now. Maybe the deal won't be around when I need the rest of it, so at least I saved some ducats on part of it. Doesn't mean you were wrong, since maybe it will be cheaper later, but I took a chance. If you are in the market for EC, this is a good deal. If you don't need it now, it might still be a good deal.
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