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Old 04-11-2012, 09:19 PM   #31
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man.. how have i missed this thread!!

awesome!!
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Old 04-12-2012, 03:30 AM   #32
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My dumb butt used up all the slate last week so I had to attach this to black lava rock:



Yes, it'll be positioned a bit differently in the tank and the rock, for the most part, will be beneath the substrate.

Not too shabby for wood scraps and some super glue gel, if I may say so myself. I kind of like the idea of part of the wood touching the substrate.

I can neither confirm nor deny that I fell asleep sitting up in a chair but I *can* tell you that I won't be attaching moss til tomorrow. I've got a decent amount of Java/Xmas/Singapore/Peacock and a literal pound of Willow Moss.

Love the way mixed mosses have grown in another tank of mine:



But think the more messy look of Willow Moss could be interesting with such a small tank.

Another mission for tomorrow: see if I can get a glass shop to notch out section for my AC20 or if I have to get crafty with a glass cutter and silicone on my own.
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Old 04-12-2012, 08:47 PM   #33
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Slowly filling:



Filled:





Tank looks way more bright than it truly is.

Forgot to attach this part of the wood to a rock, so I have to weight it down for a week or two:



All the super glue will eventually be covered up with moss growth. Then it'll look pretty sweet, I think.

A reputable seller sent me these Cryps as parva but they're a little large to be parva, I'm thinking. Decided to use them anyway because they're tall:



Also found two small E. parkeri that had recently split so I decided to toss them in, as well, to see what happens.

Put two chunks of sponge from an old filter in the AC. It contains the AC sponge, old sponges, old ceramic chunks, new ceramic chunks, filter floss. Decided to use Nutrafin Cycle again, as well.

Excitement builds!
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Old 04-12-2012, 11:41 PM   #34
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dig the substrate!
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Old 04-12-2012, 11:54 PM   #35
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question that defies me -- how do you propagate moss on wood, because rubberbands don't do it for me.
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I thought that light might be to bright but it looks just right. It does look kind of blue though. Do you know the spectrum?
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Old 04-12-2012, 11:56 PM   #37
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dig the substrate!
He super glues it to the wood.
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Old 04-13-2012, 12:36 AM   #38
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Yep, super glue gel. That's the white stuff on the wood. You can see in the 20L photo above that moss completely covers the glue within a few weeks. That way there's nothing too unsightly. Tying it on with thread also works well.

The 51 white LEDs are 6500K - the 3 blue ones are actinic. Definitely a weak fixture but I suspect it'll be fine for this particular tank.
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Old 04-15-2012, 06:16 PM   #39
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You know what's not fun? Waiting 3-4 weeks for a new tank to mature to the point where shrimp would be happy.

This tank can already process 4PPM of ammonia in less than 24 hours. But here I am waiting. And waiting. And waiting.

At least it's going to be loaded down with moss when the first critters move in.
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Old 04-15-2012, 07:54 PM   #40
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question that defies me -- how do you propagate moss on wood, because rubberbands don't do it for me.
Use scissors to snip pieces off, kinda like mowing a lawn :P
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Old 04-16-2012, 03:24 PM   #41
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That works for trimming moss. They asked how I got moss to grow on wood. That can be accomplished by attaching with cotton thread, thin fishing line, mesh, super glue gel, et al.

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Old 04-19-2012, 03:54 AM   #42
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how's the AC20 flow on this tank? i may buy it if you think it's ok. if not i may just use a red sea nano on mine.

i just unpack the packaging and poured in what i hope is AS, and filled it.
now i don't know what to do...
guess i'll decide once the water clears but again, i hope it's AS. how the heck do you tell the difference between AS and Shrimp stratum!?
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Definitely get an AC20. The tank is so long that the Red Sea Nano won't cut it. You can turn the flow down some on the AC20, which is nice. No complaints on this end. It's just a $10 price difference and is well worth it.

ADA Aquasoil, if it's new/uncycled, will create an ammonia spike. Fluval Shrimp Stratum is just plain old clay/dirt that doesn't do much.
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Old 04-19-2012, 04:07 AM   #44
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got it, getting the ac20.
btw, i think i'm going to just moss up my tank - i've always wanted different types of moss and i've got about 4 right now.
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I really love the tank and think it's well-suited for moss and shrimp. It's so short that getting adequate flow is no problem. And lighting? Even this cheap-o eBay LED fixture I bought does the trick.

Bonus of the AC20: way more media options. You can even run a standard bag of Purigen if necessary. Parts are cheap and readily available. More sturdy than the Red Sea Nano (which is a great filter for standard 2.5gal tanks).

You'll likely need to cut the intake pipe with a Dremel tool or hacksaw but that's the only real modification necessary. I also cut part of the intake strainer down so I could pull the sponge up a bit higher.
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