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Old 04-28-2005, 03:22 AM   #1
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I just spoke with Justin at Ocean's Aquarium today asking about Sunset Hygro and he says that the plant is illegal in California. I thought it to be somewhat suprising and wondered what else California has deemed a noxious weed. I have heard that Java Moss is also illegal because of it potential to plug drains.

What other plants have y'all learned to be illegal?
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Old 04-28-2005, 06:05 AM   #2
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That's funny... I thought weed was legal in California
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Old 04-28-2005, 12:28 PM   #3
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True, True.
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Old 04-28-2005, 01:52 PM   #4
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That's funny... I thought weed was legal in California
ROFLMAO !

Sadly "sunset" hygro is a banned plant in many states, it's transport is regulated to the point where it's hard to get in any state, even if it isn't prohibited. The last batch I got was off eBay.
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Old 04-28-2005, 05:12 PM   #5
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Hmm, remembered something about hygro on thekrib...

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Originally Posted by http://www.thekrib.com/Plants/Plants/Hygrophila.html#13
"I've been told that "Nomaphila" is just another name for "Hygrophila"
I think the reason why this store uses the
former nomenclature is to avoid hassles with the Dept. of Agriculture. Most
of the Hygrophila spp are banned, here, and I'm sure just having the genus
name on the packing list would be enough to send up a red flag."
Wonder if that is true...
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Old 04-28-2005, 11:01 PM   #6
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LOL @ bigpow!!!

I don't think Java Moss is illegal in California. Hygrophila polysperma and at least one species of Limnophila (forgot - was it aquatica, sessiliflora, or both?) is illegal in California.
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Old 04-29-2005, 01:25 AM   #7
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That's funny... I thought weed was legal in California
Yeah for "medicinal purposes"

bellisb925: I don't think I have a stem or two of that plant floating in my tank right now so if you PM'ed me I probably wouldn't be able to give it to you.
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Old 04-29-2005, 02:13 AM   #8
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i got a stem of that sunset and its pretty slow growing versus Hygrophila polysperma. Nolan you are right the plant is growing pretty fast and its under less then 2wpg! I ripped some leaves off and those are now new little plants!
Stuff is really scary the way it grows!
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Old 05-19-2005, 05:37 AM   #9
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I'm fairly sure java moss is legal in california. around here it's kind of hard to come by.
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Old 07-07-2005, 05:55 AM   #10
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So what exactly does it mean it is "illegal"? Can you get arrested for having the plant or do you need to pay a fine ? Is sunset hygro illegal because it is becoming extinct or is it because it is like smoking weed?
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It's illegal due to it's potential for over running local fauna in certain areas.

Generally it's regulated by the agricultural department or natural resources of the respective states.

Keep in mind though, this is becoming a federal issue, the invasive species act in it's current incarnation threatens to be most restrictive, some have proposed giving up trying to determine what poses a threat and adopt a "ban em all" attitude and deal with lifting the restrictions on an individual basis.

One county in Iowa, due to utter ignorance of the powers that be and the lack of involvement of responsible hobbyists in the process has banned the possession and/or sale of piranhas as a dangerous and potentially invasive species.
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Old 07-07-2005, 11:19 AM   #12
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Cfide, as an example, in South Carolina you can get a fine of no less than $500 USD or/and jail time no less than one year.

If you think that is bad, in Singapore the penalties are around $8,000 USD.

That is state law, some plants are also illegal on the federal level, i have no idea what the penalties might be.
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Old 07-07-2005, 11:52 AM   #13
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Bad news - in the mild year-round climate of California, especially coastal areas, many tropical water plants should be able to flourish if introduced.

Good news - unlike my present home, New Orleans, there is very little in the way of freshwater habitat for those plants to invade.

Bad news - that means those areas should be very rigorously guarded!

A bit off-topic - it's against federal law to ship water hyacinth across state lines but it's a frequently offered item on eBay!!
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http://www.cdfa.ca.gov/phpps/ipc/nox...eedinfo_hp.htm

http://endeavor.des.ucdavis.edu/weeds/

Java moss is not banned that I know of. There are also regional bans. In San Diego, for example, I've heard that riccia is illegal. Haven't found the right office in the county gov. to answer the question though...
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