29g blackwater biotope- acuario de rio negro

[RipariumGuy]

I was just going to warn you... The AGA judges are real picky about biotopes with wrong species. So watch yourself!

[orchidman]

okay, thanks for the tip! do any of the species i have listed mess it up?

[CobraGuppy]

The hardscape is looking nice ! Can't wait for when it's actually setup

Originally Posted by orchidman

i'm thinking indian almond leaves, because i cant think of any others.

Hmm, i've seen/heard of people using dried Oak leaves in the same fashion as IALs to create a leaf litter bottom, and for the tannin colored water effect.. but i'm not sure if Oak leaves are found in this biotope ?

[orchidman]

not sure indian almond leaves are found in this biotope either. good point! anybody have ideas? i'd love to have a leaf litter in this tank!

[BradH]

I would say it depends. lol If you go to this link http://fish.mongabay.com/biotope_rio_sucasari.htm or this link http://fish.mongabay.com/biotope_amazon_blackwater.htm They will give some examples. Without looking I can't personally say that a cardinal tetra and an angel fish are in the same water. Nor the otos and the bn. They might say, you shouldn't have used an albino bn. Who knows what the judges are thinking. I did look through every years biotope contest entries and this one judge on there was very critical about things.

I would say the cardinals and angels are ok and a regular bn. I don't know about the oto though. I'll read up some and try to help you figure it out.

[BradH]

I don't think they would care if it was oak leaves.

[orchidman]

thanks alot brad! thats helps alot! im going to bed now, but i'll read the links tomorrow. i might not do a BN pleco at all then. it depends i guess. i kind of wanted otos, because they help with some algae. maybe i'll just get a larger school of the cardinals and nix the otos and the pleco, unless i can find a regular BN pleco.

i remember jake saying that the one judge didnt like albino fish, another good call. thanks alot guys!

[orchidman]

Originally Posted by BradH

I don't think they would care if it was oak leaves.

you dont? would they care if it was IAL? i just want some kind of leaf litter.thats all

[BradH]

If you go to this link http://fish.mongabay.com/biotope_amazon_blackwater.htm I just looked through the fish and every fish that you wanted is on the list. bn pleco, oto, angel and cardinal, so your good to go.

Also, I read alot of comments from the judges on the biotopes for every tank and every year. All the people used oak leaves. So you are ok to do so, but I would not use indian almond leaves because they come from another continent. Unless you break them up into pieces so they can't tell what they are and you don't mention them as such. lol


Here is their profile. Send'em a message and they might have one for sale. http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/me...oddnbecka.html

[BradH]

I got my regular bn pleco from a user on here toddnbecka. Look them up they might still have some. great seller and great fish.

[kuni]

Biotope doesn't mean that the actual hardscape materials came from habitat in question. It really wouldn't be cool if aquarium keepers decimated natural environments just to recreate them at home.

For an accurate biotope, plants and fish should be correct for your area + habitat, but your materials just need to resemble what's actually found there. Either Indian or oak leaves would be fine.

[orchidman]

thanks so much brad! you are helping me so much here

Originally Posted by kuni

Biotope doesn't mean that the actual hardscape materials came from habitat in question. It really wouldn't be cool if aquarium keepers decimated natural environments just to recreate them at home.

For an accurate biotope, plants and fish should be correct for your area + habitat, but your materials just need to resemble what's actually found there. Either Indian or oak leaves would be fine.

okay, thanks alot that makes me not have to worry about getting the correct leaves and such. woohoo! i'll just use IAL and break them up.

thanks guys. i didnt end up washing sand yesterday, but i'll go and try to get it done right now. lol!

[orchidman]

i am picking up all my fish from rachel. and im not sure if she has regular BN plecos. if she does, i'll get one, if not, i'd rather not ship them.

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[orchidman]

Originally Posted by BradH

If you go to this link http://fish.mongabay.com/biotope_amazon_blackwater.htm I just looked through the fish and every fish that you wanted is on the list. bn pleco, oto, angel and cardinal, so your good to go.

Also, I read alot of comments from the judges on the biotopes for every tank and every year. All the people used oak leaves. So you are ok to do so, but I would not use indian almond leaves because they come from another continent. Unless you break them up into pieces so they can't tell what they are and you don't mention them as such. lol


Here is their profile. Send'em a message and they might have one for sale. http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/me...oddnbecka.html

that link is the same as the one you gave in an earlier post. i opened both and they are exactly the same. and they both dont have otos or BN pleco. maybe you got the wrong link by accident in this post.