Did Excel kill my honey gourami?

JSA · 06-19-2011, 06:48 PM

Not sure if this goes in Fish or Fertz...

I am really feeling terrible. This morning I dumped a capful of Excel and a capful of Fourish into my planted 55. Moments later I noticed my little golden honey gourami swimming weakly and just sort of fluttering down onto the substrate. His gills moved for a bit longer, and then he died.

I wasn't looking, but I wonder if I dumped the stuff right on top of him, and it killed him.

I have used both Flourish and Excel many times before, and I have had this little guy for about 2 months without problems.

Any thoughts?

Julia

labgeek · 06-19-2011, 06:55 PM

Ive been overdosing my tank with both with no apparent ill affects on my honey gourami.

amberskye · 06-19-2011, 07:49 PM

i always mix my liquid fertz in a jug of tankwater for that reason - it could land undilited on a fish

vespers_ · 06-19-2011, 08:53 PM

i doubt it would do anything.

Bree · 06-19-2011, 10:25 PM

I had 4 honey gouramis that would swim right through the excel and flourish everytime i dosed, and i double the dose, they were always healthy and nothing bad happened to them involving these ferts.

kingfisherfleshy · 06-19-2011, 11:56 PM

I dose 5ml every morning into my 10g...so I highly doubt it.

JSA · 06-19-2011, 11:59 PM

OK, thanks folks. I wonder what got him. He looked fine yesterday. Only thing different was that I fed dried tubifex worms today instead of flake food. Could he have choked?

kingfisherfleshy · 06-20-2011, 12:19 AM

On tubifex? Prolly not. Only had a fish choke once....and it was an oscar. They pretty much go right to the bottom and start gasping if they are actually choking and its the only time I have ever seen a fish "choke".

eser21 · 06-20-2011, 12:34 AM

ive been tripple dosing to get rid of staghorn and my gouramis always swim straight into it thinking is food im putting in. All is well

kingfisherfleshy · 06-20-2011, 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eser21

ive been tripple dosing to get rid of staghorn and my gouramis always swim straight into it thinking is food im putting in. All is well

Triple is nothing...Im doing 5x! Ha...honestly thought about increasing it as well.

dwc13 · 06-20-2011, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingfisherfleshy

On tubifex? Prolly not. Only had a fish choke once....and it was an oscar. They pretty much go right to the bottom and start gasping if they are actually choking and its the only time I have ever seen a fish "choke".

Then you obviously have never seen the Florida Marlins play baseball...

Sorry, couldn't pass that up.

AirstoND · 06-22-2011, 02:32 AM

It could just be coincidence with your fert dosing. My dwarf gourami died after 2 months, I've been reading they have a virus that makes them prone to illness. It behaved normally when I used liquid plant food and root tabs. I also suspect he could have chewed a bad snail or piece of plant that proved too toxic.

Sorry for the loss

06-19-2011, 06:48 PM	#1
JSA Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Tallahassee Posts: 142	Did Excel kill my honey gourami? Not sure if this goes in Fish or Fertz... I am really feeling terrible. This morning I dumped a capful of Excel and a capful of Fourish into my planted 55. Moments later I noticed my little golden honey gourami swimming weakly and just sort of fluttering down onto the substrate. His gills moved for a bit longer, and then he died. I wasn't looking, but I wonder if I dumped the stuff right on top of him, and it killed him. I have used both Flourish and Excel many times before, and I have had this little guy for about 2 months without problems. Any thoughts? Julia

06-19-2011, 08:53 PM	#4
vespers_ Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: May 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 618	i doubt it would do anything. __________________ 75G Paludarium Build Thread: http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/vi...ml#post1521064 filstar pimp #171

06-19-2011, 10:25 PM	#5
Bree Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Yukon, Canada Posts: 642	I had 4 honey gouramis that would swim right through the excel and flourish everytime i dosed, and i double the dose, they were always healthy and nothing bad happened to them involving these ferts. __________________ -20 gallon Planted Tank. -Retired. -45 Gallon Planted Tank. -5 Gallon Tank. -120 gallon Bearded Dragon Viv. -Boots my Rescued Shih tzu/ mini Schnauzer. -Teddy my mini poodle pound Puppy.

06-19-2011, 11:56 PM	#6
kingfisherfleshy Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (11/100%) Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Central Wisconsin Posts: 673	I dose 5ml every morning into my 10g...so I highly doubt it. __________________ Eheim Pimp #423 My Riparium: http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh...=1#post1981832

06-20-2011, 12:19 AM	#8
kingfisherfleshy Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (11/100%) Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Central Wisconsin Posts: 673	On tubifex? Prolly not. Only had a fish choke once....and it was an oscar. They pretty much go right to the bottom and start gasping if they are actually choking and its the only time I have ever seen a fish "choke". __________________ Eheim Pimp #423 My Riparium: http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh...=1#post1981832

06-19-2011, 06:55 PM	#2
labgeek Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (1/100%) Join Date: May 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 85	Ive been overdosing my tank with both with no apparent ill affects on my honey gourami.

06-19-2011, 07:49 PM	#3
amberskye Planted Tank Obsessed (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: england, UK Posts: 445	i always mix my liquid fertz in a jug of tankwater for that reason - it could land undilited on a fish

06-19-2011, 11:59 PM	#7
JSA Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Tallahassee Posts: 142	OK, thanks folks. I wonder what got him. He looked fine yesterday. Only thing different was that I fed dried tubifex worms today instead of flake food. Could he have choked?

06-20-2011, 12:34 AM	#9
eser21 Planted Tank Obsessed (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: cambridge uk Posts: 435	ive been tripple dosing to get rid of staghorn and my gouramis always swim straight into it thinking is food im putting in. All is well __________________ Just Plantin' and prayin' 55g Bow front http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/yo...o=view&id=2560 900x750x450 optiwhite http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/yo...o=view&id=3819

06-22-2011, 02:32 AM	#12
AirstoND Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 1,230	Mine died too It could just be coincidence with your fert dosing. My dwarf gourami died after 2 months, I've been reading they have a virus that makes them prone to illness. It behaved normally when I used liquid plant food and root tabs. I also suspect he could have chewed a bad snail or piece of plant that proved too toxic. Sorry for the loss

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