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Old 01-26-2011, 07:03 AM   #1
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Fluval Ebi - African Biotype


I been gone for a while, but I'm back

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Aquarium: Fluval Ebi
Lighting: Current 32W PC
Heating: Hydor Theo Heater (50W)
Filtration: Eheim 2211
Substrate: Fluval Shrimp Stratum substrate, Silver sand, & river pebbles
Plants: Anubias barteri, Anubias barteri var. nana, Bolbitis heudelotii, Vesicularia dubyana, Microsorum pteropus, and Microsorum pteropus 'Windelov'
Fish:
1:1 Pelvicachromis taeniatus 'Nigeria Red'???


What do you all think? Ill be posting pics shortly.

Also if any of you guys have any anubias barteri var. available for sale (or for free ) let me know


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Old 01-26-2011, 07:47 AM   #2
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What do I think? I think I want to see some pictures already!!! haha
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Old 01-26-2011, 01:35 PM   #3
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I have one still in the box. I am waiting on collecting all the items that I need before I start it up. One question, why didn't you use the light and filter that came with it?

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I am interested in how much current the Eheim 2211 creates in an EBI.
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What do I think? I think I want to see some pictures already!!! haha
LOL. Patience is a virtue my friend. I just finished taking pics and I'll be posting pics of the setup and equipment today.

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I have one still in the box. I am waiting on collecting all the items that I need before I start it up. One question, why didn't you use the light and filter that came with it?

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Smart move. I feel like I'll have a higher bioload than the filter can handle plus the filter takes up limited and valuable tank space. The light is something I had sitting here from my other African tank so I thought I might as well use it.

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I am interested in how much current the Eheim 2211 creates in an EBI.
The LFS has 2211 running in their Ebi and looks real clean. I got it for 69 bucks.
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Old 01-26-2011, 06:42 PM   #6
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Also does anyone know where I could get a auto top off system for nano tanks?
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Personally I think that is a waste of money. It's not hard to pour a few 100 mL of water into the tank every couple days. If you can't handle that for maintenance then a nano is probably not for you.
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Personally I think that is a waste of money. It's not hard to pour a few 100 mL of water into the tank every couple days. If you can't handle that for maintenance then a nano is probably not for you.
Personally I don't think it's a waste of money. With 32W running 8 hrs a day there's a lot more than 100mL of evaporation, plus I have a job that requires traveling on the weekends (Fri-Sun). ATO system would safe guard drastic evaporation. To be honest, I never asked what you thought of me getting an ATO but thanks for your input.

Anyways, a buddy @ the LFS told me about this site, they carry ATO for nano tanks for $45. Probably invest in it next week.

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Personally I don't think it's a waste of money. With 32W running 8 hrs a day there's a lot more than 100mL of evaporation, plus I have a job that requires traveling on the weekends (Fri-Sun). ATO system would safe guard drastic evaporation. To be honest, I never asked what you thought of me getting an ATO but thanks for your input.



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I know you didn't ask but I thought I would share my thoughts and opinions on it. Isn't that what this forum is for? Topoffs would have to be the easiest part of maintenance. Also if you topped off on friday and came back on monday you probably wouldnt have more then an inch of evaporation.

Are you planning on using CO2 at all?

And I would remove the little clay cave thing unless you can hide it with moss or plants. It looks very un natural.
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tell ya the truth dude, I dunno if that auto top off.is really needed I am running 2 4g nanos both with eheim 2211s, and open top with LED, I only add water about twice a week and its usually only about 8-12oz I keep a gallon jug of water next to the stand and its pretty easy. I think if you top off before the weekend you will be fine, but thats just my opinion.
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My wife uses a Tunze osmolator for top off. She hasn't had any problems with it.

I've also seen people using gravity feed top offs for small tanks. You might want to do a search.

You may also be able to get away with something diy with a float switch and a toms micro-lifter for a small tank.

Also, vesicularia and microsorum are not proper plants for african biotope as they are from SE asia.

http://www.tropica.com/plants/origin/africa.aspx has a list of commonly used african plants if you want to be accurate to at least the continent.

Addendum: Didn't realize the size of tank. Might be a little tight for kribs. If your male and female decide to not hit it off, there might be trouble. Make sure you keep an eye on them.

If you are not overly tied to a planted tank, a mated pair of Tanganyika Shell dwellers might be more suitable for that tank. You can make an interesting hardscape, throw in a couple shells and they should be fine.

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I know you didn't ask but I thought I would share my thoughts and opinions on it. Isn't that what this forum is for? Topoffs would have to be the easiest part of maintenance. Also if you topped off on friday and came back on monday you probably wouldnt have more then an inch of evaporation.

Are you planning on using CO2 at all?

And I would remove the little clay cave thing unless you can hide it with moss or plants. It looks very un natural.
I apologize for being rude. YouR last post rubbed me the wrong way. The reason I wanted a ATO is previously when I had a 9 gallon tank, before it cracked, I used the same lighting but used a 2213 for filtration. One weekend I was gone from Friday and came back early morning Monday. Over 2 to 3" evaporated and the filter was shooting the water out of the tank. I came in just in time to correct the problem, otherwise, I would had a tank with no water. I just didn't want that happening, granted I am using a smaller filter than previously. I guess it's a safe measure, let's me sleep easier at night.

I was not planning on using CO2. I wasn't planning on using such demanding plants. Why? You think I need CO2? Frequent water changes (2-3 a week) and supplement Excel was the plan. The clay pot is hidden under rocks and sand now. Can't see it at all. I'll post update pics after the bubbles and water clear up. Once again I'm sorry for snapping at you bro.

-Koshy G.

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tell ya the truth dude, I dunno if that auto top off.is really needed I am running 2 4g nanos both with eheim 2211s, and open top with LED, I only add water about twice a week and its usually only about 8-12oz I keep a gallon jug of water next to the stand and its pretty easy. I think if you top off before the weekend you will be fine, but thats just my opinion.
Thanks for the thought bro. Before I buy the ATO I'm gonna run a trail and see how much evaporation occurs during the weekend. Like I said earlier it's just for safe measure.

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My wife uses a Tunza osmolator for top off. She hasn't had any problems with it.

I've also seen people using gravity feed top offs for small tanks. You might want to do a search.

You may also be able to get away with something diy with a float switch and a toms micro-lifter for a small tank.

Also, vesicularia and microsorum are not proper plants for african biotope as they are from SE asia.

http://www.tropica.com/plants/origin/africa.aspx has a list of commonly used african plants if you want to be accurate to at least the continent.

Addendum: Didn't realize the size of tank. Might be a little tight for kribs. If your male and female decide to not hit it off, there might be trouble. Make sure you keep an eye on them.

If you are not overly tied to a planted tank, a mated pair of Tanganyika Shell dwellers might be more suitable for that tank. You can make an interesting hardscape, throw in a couple shells and they should be fine.

-Charlie
Thank you for the link Charlie...very helpful. I'll be removing the Java fern as soon as I get enough Anubias. I was hoping to get some paired off kribs. In my old tank, a 9 gallon, i had a pair who mated and were guarding eggs, the male never harassed the female. The paired off naturally and I guess they had a strong bond. I was hoping I could get a pair who formed naturally in a large group. I might just do African killies instead. I'm having a hard time finding Nigerian reds.

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Filled the tank.
Filter up and running.
Got a 2 Microsynodontis sp. & 1 small Marbled Cameroon shrimp - all are in QT

Posting pics soon.

-Koshy George
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Looking good man. Looking forward for updates. Oh, and sorry for being impatience. LOL.
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Thanks Wolf.

I just noticed my shrimp just molted. He is bright red right now, I always thought they were a white color after the process until their exoskeleton hardens. Any thoughts?

More pics:

Final layout without black background:


This picture was taken right after all the plants were placed and water topped off:


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Water flow from the 2211:


I'll be removing the Java Fern very soon and adding several Anubias in its place.
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One weekend I was gone from Friday and came back early morning Monday. Over 2 to 3" evaporated and the filter was shooting the water out of the tank. I came in just in time to correct the problem, otherwise, I would had a tank with no water. I just didn't want that happening, granted I am using a smaller filter than previously. I guess it's a safe measure, let's me sleep easier at night.
Not sure I follow. If properly set up why would evaporation cause water to be sprayed out of the tank?

From what I've heard about ATO's I'd be more concerned about them flooding your house. Not that they can't be done right, but it's more complicated to set up correctly than a power filter.

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Got a 2 Microsynodontis sp. & 1 small Marbled Cameroon shrimp - all are in QT

Posting pics soon.

-Koshy George
Awesome! Synodontis are one of my favorites and I didn't know there was a smaller species of them. How big do they get?

I googled "Marbled Cameroon shrimp" and came up with nothing. Any links?

Good luck with the tank!
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