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Old 12-11-2004, 12:37 AM   #1
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how many puffs can i keep


how many puffers can i keep in a 55 gallon i was thinking 1 2 or 3
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Old 12-11-2004, 06:45 PM   #2
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What kind of puffers? They vary a lot in size and requirements.
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what ever is a fresh water puffer
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dwarf puffers, but i'm not really sure how a large groupe would work out, try dwarfpuffers.com
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Old 12-13-2004, 05:27 AM   #5
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i've always had a dream of a huge fish tank where only 6 small fish went in like a huge 50 gallon

think about how happy they must be, bioload would be small, plants be everywhere, it'd be as close as it gets to the wild

probably a lot, at least 5-6

each would get about 10 gallons to itself, Dwarf puffers some people already put 4-5 in a 10 gallon tank, so i dont see why 5-6 wouldn't work in the 50, it'd really split up their line of sight and such, keep agression down haha but im sure you'd probably want other fish in there unless you're weird like me
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Old 12-13-2004, 01:45 PM   #6
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Dwarf Puffers are great.
Try and make sure you have 2-5 gallons per fish i had 10 in a 40 gallon and they all did great no real aggression problems they all begged for food in the same place with only minor bickering. I currently have a 20 gallon with 4 and have no problems at all and those are my physco killer ones that kill and eat anything "except a male flag fish and each other" most are much more docile and do great with other fish "long fins excluded".

If you keep the stocking lower in a large tank you might even be able to keep enough snails alive to let them hunt "don't count on it my physco ones will kill everything even when they cant eat them. I know they cant eat any more because they look like they will explode." But it differs between individuals.

I love them though

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what ever is a fresh water puffer

There are a number of freshwater puffers, several of which may work for your tank, although most will require very small numbers. Most puffers require a species tank because they're quite aggressive. They're also messy eaters that can put a strain on water quality. In some cases, you'd only be able to keep a single fish in a 55 gallon. You could keep lots of dwarf puffers in a 55, maybe a few south american puffs.

In addition to http://www.dwarfpuffers.com, as suggested by pufferfreak, take a look at http://www.thepufferforum.com. There's a whole section of the forum devoted to fw puffs, and articles that you should find helpful.
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One LFS has what they call a pea puffer. Little guys are about fingernail size. Supposedly don't get any bigger.
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those are dwarf puffers
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Dwarf Puffers are great.
Try and make sure you have 2-5 gallons per fish i had 10 in a 40 gallon and they all did great no real aggression problems they all begged for food in the same place with only minor bickering. I currently have a 20 gallon with 4 and have no problems at all and those are my physco killer ones that kill and eat anything "except a male flag fish and each other" most are much more docile and do great with other fish "long fins excluded".

If you keep the stocking lower in a large tank you might even be able to keep enough snails alive to let them hunt "don't count on it my physco ones will kill everything even when they cant eat them. I know they cant eat any more because they look like they will explode." But it differs between individuals.

I love them though

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Lol Matt,
I must have one of those. Picked up a Pea Puffer (Dwarf) on the weekend to help with the snails in my 10G. So far she's managed to cut the population in there by at least one third. She even killed the largest snail ( close to twice her size ) In the last two days I've removed at least a dozen empty or partially empty snail shells from the tank. LOL she's almost as wide as long. Can't wait to move her to my 20g to get the Ramhorns in there.
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Be careful with the ramhorn snails!
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Be careful with the ramhorn snails!
Pufferfreak, why?? Any chance they will harm her?
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no they will eat all the plants
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You do have to be careful with ramhorn snails with dwarf puffers, dwarfs should only try to eat the little babies, not the large parent snails. Could break the puffers teeth and stuff, same goes with MTS, dont let dwarf puffers eat MTS!
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Agreed on the MTS and Eating Ramshorns they are fine as long as they are eating just the flesh and not the shell mine wont touch the shell on the bigger ones but keep an eye out.

I had some red ramshorns in one of my tanks things ate the base of every val i had killing them the leaves just floated to the top err. I put some of my more docile guys in there and they took care of the little ones but would not touch the bigger guys not a bad arrangement as they ate the eggs and babies but i wanted them gone so i dropped in the 4 i have in the twenty gallon they killed the big ones and literally ate there way up in the shell all you could see was there tails to funny

P.S this tank was unoccupied at the time otherwise they might have killed everything else too So be careful and if you start noticing fins or fish missing suspect that cute little puffer

If you can get some south Americans they are pretty cool mine got to about 6 inches and where the most docile puffer i have ever had did ok in a community tank. They still have teeth though so beware.

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