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Old 01-09-2014, 01:11 AM   #1
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Default 40 Breeder Wannabe Dutch | 3 Layer Dip | Large Trim 04/13/14 | Myrio Tube. Red Added

This is my first 40 gallon breeder scape. I would appreciate all the advice and love you all can contribute to my scape.


Filtration:
Cascade Canister Filter - 700
Eheim Surface Skim 350

Lighting:
1 x 36" Finnex Planted+
1 x 36" Finnex MonsterRay
1 x 36" Finnex Ray2
1 x 36" Finnex FugeRay

*Custom 3" Finnex Leg Extenders (Built by TPT member Fuze)*



ZooMed 36" Quad HO t5
(back to front)
1 x 5k ZooMed
1 x UV Red Sun
1 x Giesemann Aqua Flora
1 x 65k ZooMed
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Co2/Ferts:
EI Dosing / 50% WC on Sundays
Ista Reactor
5lb tank
Ista Co2 Controller
5 bps (Turn dropcheck light green)

Harsscape:
ADA Amazonia Aquasoil ( 4 bags?)
Manzanita Wood from Tom Barr (plantbrian)

Fauna:

6 x SAE's
5 x Dwarf Chain Loach (Ambastaia Sidthimunki)
12+ x Otocinclus


Flora:
Alternanthera Reineckii 'Variegated'
Alternanthera Reineckii 'Mini'
Eriocaulon sp. Parkeri, Shiga
Pogostemon Helferi 'Downoi'
'Micrantherum Umbrosum 'Monte Carlo'
Ludwigia Senegalensis
Tonina Lotus Bloosom
Ammania sp. Bonsai ('True' Rotala Indica)
Rotala sp. Vietnam
Rotala Macranda 'Variegated'
Syngonanthus sp. Belem, Manaus, unknown, dwarf canuck
Hygrophilia sp. Araguaia
Erio Blood Vomit (Trithuria Sp)



FTS: 04/13/14





Before Trim: 04/13/14






03/28/14
(DIY Hanging Kit)





03/18/14






03/17/14




03/12/14







2/12/14




Last picture before the re-scape 2/09/14
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Old 01-09-2014, 01:17 AM   #2
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Subscribed. Looking forward to seeing this come together.


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Old 01-09-2014, 01:26 AM   #3
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I'd suggest you hack that plant list in half. My biggest mistake with my dutch tank was trying to cram too many plants into a small tank (60p). Pretty much you get to work with color contrasts and leaf shape contrasts. Planting in "avenues" will also help you out quite a bit, I made the mistake of just planting in "blobs" like you would in a jungle tank, and it didn't work out so great. If you can incorporate some hardscaping to maintain borders, that helps keep things tidy. Can't wait to see what you come up with, that lighting is going to be stunning!
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I thought you had anubias snow white in there?
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Old 01-09-2014, 02:25 AM   #5
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I thought you had anubias snow white in there?
-____-" lol....

anyways, just incase no one knows my story about the anubias 'snow white'... I believe it got flushed down the toilet after the huge mess of the right root being uprooted... I was siphoning water out to restart the whole hardscape/planting process... and mightve sucked up the tiny little plant in the process....


This particular plant had a lot of sentimental value to me... as it got swamped with black beard algae... so i cut all the beautiful white leaves off and restarted with just a rhizome... that was about a year ago and it was able to bounce back and shoot me two plants...


heres its last picture, as I had the idea of having a white section with every variegated anubias available...


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I'd suggest you hack that plant list in half. My biggest mistake with my dutch tank was trying to cram too many plants into a small tank (60p). Pretty much you get to work with color contrasts and leaf shape contrasts. Planting in "avenues" will also help you out quite a bit, I made the mistake of just planting in "blobs" like you would in a jungle tank, and it didn't work out so great. If you can incorporate some hardscaping to maintain borders, that helps keep things tidy. Can't wait to see what you come up with, that lighting is going to be stunning!
Thanks for the suggestion! got me thinking.

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Why do you need some many fixtures? That's a lot of light!
Because the plants told me so...

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Looks great ! Cant wait to see it once the plants have grown in more.
What are you using to raise the lights ?
thanks! im excited as well..
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Old 01-09-2014, 01:39 AM   #7
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Alright, here it goes...


Hardscape..





Sectioning out plants for planting..





Flooded..


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Old 01-09-2014, 02:15 AM   #8
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Got some more reds from my buddy Sean (Sjb1987). Make sure to message him and take all his plants! :p


Plants added from Sean:

Ludwigia sp. 'Red'
Ludwigia Senegalensis
Ludwigia Pantanal
Rotala Pearl 'mini'
Erio. sp. 'Shiga'
Hyptis Lorentziana




Green Fire Tetra



FTS.
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Why do you need some many fixtures? That's a lot of light!
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Looks great ! Cant wait to see it once the plants have grown in more.
What are you using to raise the lights ?

Ooops i missed this......

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So, a few things went on...

Root on the right floated up up-rooting half the section up and clouding the water... I should've took more time in making sure everything was anchored down my soil...

This changed my whole hardscape.. it was a very frustrating process going through. Plants are stable and I'll tweak with it in a week or two..
Very open to suggestions... I know I broke the rule in 'dutch' as alternating colors (green/red/etc..)
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Look at you and Sean, with your new 40 B's I'll be joining the club soon! Getting my breeder this weekend! And plan on doing a scape similar to both of yours, but with more crypts and buces.

I really love what you are doing with the smaller stems in the middle. I like the intricate look to it and leading to bigger leaved plants on the edges. Looks really nice.

How do you like your LED setup? I plan on building my own so I can have more customization. But overall, what is your opinion on LED versus t5's with your setup here. Do you find that your LED's bring out the plants colors well?

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Great looking scape. Did you do all the lights to hit all spectrums? Im thinking of changing my 55 over and thought about using to different lights myself. the planted plus and the ray 2 ds. I will definitely be watching this thread.
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Look at you and Sean, with your new 40 B's I'll be joining the club soon! Getting my breeder this weekend! And plan on doing a scape similar to both of yours, but with more crypts and buces.

I really love what you are doing with the smaller stems in the middle. I like the intricate look to it and leading to bigger leaved plants on the edges. Looks really nice.

How do you like your LED setup? I plan on building my own so I can have more customization. But overall, what is your opinion on LED versus t5's with your setup here. Do you find that your LED's bring out the plants colors well?

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nice! i was thinking about doing those 2 species in my 33L! keep me posted!
maybe i'll add in some 'rosanervig' in there

Its hard to say if I like it or not? I've actually struggled with some of my favorite plant species such as Blood Vomit and other red plants...

I've heard of stories on how LED's cant bring out the red color in plants.. If my Ludwigia sp. Red starts turning Green, then theres something to it? :p


But, I was honored to see Mr. Tom Barr's aquariums and with his t5 setups... I was blown away by the colors it brought out of the plants..

Only time will tell how my light setup does..

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Great looking scape. Did you do all the lights to hit all spectrums? Im thinking of changing my 55 over and thought about using to different lights myself. the planted plus and the ray 2 ds. I will definitely be watching this thread.
Thanks! In a way, yes. I know the MonsterRay isn't much beneficial to plants, but it does have a tiny bit of the green in it. It certainly does help balance the 7000k and make it a little nicer to the eyes.

I also scaped a tank at work , 75g, and that is the combo we are running atm. Seems like a good balance so far.
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