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Old 07-12-2013, 05:20 PM   #1
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Default ADA 90-P faulty. Or...?

I´ve got a bit of a delicate conundrum and would like some input from other ADA aquarium owners.

Would you say that it is within acceptable limits that the side panels on a brand new ADA 90-P are slightly skewed by about 3mm? The sides are not exactly parallell wich results in the corners not being exactly 90-degrees. Because of this the aquarium does not line up perfectly with my cabinet.

Am I just picky or should I expect perfection for the premium price payed for this item?

Picture illustrating the issue. The problem is mirrored on the other side:
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Old 07-12-2013, 05:23 PM   #2
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Mine is aligned perfectly. I would expect nothing less from an ADA tank.
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Old 07-12-2013, 05:28 PM   #3
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Seems like that is past acceptable limits. However, in order to judge whether its the cabinet or the tank, you may want to measure the diagonal dimensions of the tank. That will tell you whether it is skewed or not.
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Old 07-12-2013, 05:48 PM   #4
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my guess is its the cabinet that's not straight, but a tape measure will answer your question.
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Old 07-12-2013, 06:35 PM   #5
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my guess is its the cabinet that's not straight, but a tape measure will answer your question.
I was going to ask if you know for sure that your stand is square also. If the tank is off I'd be contacting ADG or AFA, assuming you purchased it from one of them.
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If you turn the tank counter clockwise. This will balance the left side also. I would say it is your stand which is crooked or bowed in the front.
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Old 07-13-2013, 02:25 AM   #7
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Thanks for the input. I forgot to mention that I of course measured the tank, both diagonally and with a 90-degree ruler (dont know the english word for it).

The tank was really hard to get hold of since there are very few retailers in the Nordic countries and starting up a warranty process with a 40kg item is kind of a bummer... but I will give it a try.
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It's call a t-square
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It's call a t-square
George Costanza !!!!!

How new is the tank? I notice some really bad craftsmanship with my 60-P. The seams are not completely straight or there is excess. No idea what the proper term is called but it's the glue that you can touch on the outside. I run my fingers down and feel it. My Fluval Edge 1st generation did not have this, the 2nd gen 12gallons has this.

The older ADA sticker tanks are perfect, everything is completely flush. My newer sticker ADA tank is not something you would expect for the amount of money.

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Old 07-15-2013, 10:23 PM   #10
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George Costanza !!!!!

How new is the tank? I notice some really bad craftsmanship with my 60-P. The seams are not completely straight or there is excess. No idea what the proper term is called but it's the glue that you can touch on the outside. I run my fingers down and feel it. My Fluval Edge 1st generation did not have this, the 2nd gen 12gallons has this.

The older ADA sticker tanks are perfect, everything is completely flush. My newer sticker ADA tank is not something you would expect for the amount of money.

I had the same problem with my 60-P, the back pane was not flush with the others as regards silicon connection, i.e when you feel it it isn't smooth.
I emailed AFA about the problem but they told me they were not going to give me a replacement, full refund or even a partial store credit. Their reason was and I quote:
"As for the fish tank, ADA aquariums goes through strict quality control, all the ADA tanks we sell passed the strict quality control for quality assurance. There is a small allowance for the panels, therefore, even if it is not perfectly flush, it will not interfere with the strength and safty of the fish tank. We are afraid we are unable to provide you credit for the fish tank. "

Um yeah.

I guess all the problems began when they switched tank manufacturing from Germany to China. The claims of better LIG are actually false, true they are clearer than the old ADA German regular glass, but NOT clearer than the old ADA German LIG tanks, I have seen plenty of examples and to compare it would be like looking at Do!Aqua = current ADA vs old ADA glass.

My guess for why they switched manufacturing locations ,easy, to lower labor and material cost and increase profit margin with zero benefit to the consumer. Funny when the yen was at all time highs the price for ADA products increased here, now the yen has fallen alot since where is our price decrease?

So who makes the best tanks then? I would say ELOS, but I don't really like the black silicone, custom tank makers? Depends on who they are and where you live. ADA is still the best choice regarding availability and price but not perfect in some cases.
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Old 07-13-2013, 08:42 PM   #11
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Yes but no. Apparently I used an L square. Thank you google

In another thread on this forum regarding what techniques the ADA factory use to produce their famous silicone joints, I suggested that a jig might be used. Well now we can rule that out. And apparently an L square was not used either... A little bit bitter perhaps.

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Old 07-13-2013, 09:42 PM   #12
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I don't blame your bitterness one bit. Best of luck getting a replacement, hopefully w/ little hassle.
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Not the best example of 'Precision crafted' I'm sure they'll do the right thing - good luck.
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I personally would not be happy at all.

I am not sure how it works in Europe, but if you do not get an acceptable resolution from the seller I would contact the credit card issuer, if you paid by a CC.

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Old 07-14-2013, 04:26 AM   #15
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I bought the tank through a small dealer who mostly deals with the smaller ada stuff, like glassware, soil etc. They´ve got connections with the German ada stockist and had an arrend down there, so I saw my chance to get hold of an ada aquarium without paying silly freight costs.

Potential scenarios:

#1 They ignore me, or think my claim is silly.

#2 I can get some sort of compensation/retro price reduction but keep the tank.
(I could live with this, the tank is not ruined. A few steps back and it´s not very noticeable)

#3 They replace the item and pay for shipping.
(Not very likely but you never know the service level of folks when they have a few hundred miles and a few boarders to hide behind.)
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