Nano 8x6 inches (update 4/21/06 on last page)

**ianiwane** · 11-21-2005, 08:02 PM

what do you guys think?

11/21/2005

No filter on yet. Ordered a nano filter, and coralife mini aqualight. It is an ocean free tank thanks to Boun. Substrate is ada aquasoil.

Update 12/03/2005

Got the mini aqualight (18 watts) no filter yet. Things look like they are growing. Soon I will take out some plant species. Any opinions on what I should take out or leave?

Plants
Juncus repens
Polygonum muricatum
Hygro sp red
Hemigraphis trian
Downoi
Utricularia sp.
weeping moss
Ammania sp Bonsai

Fauna
Cherry shrimp
Male endlers

Ian

Raphael · 11-21-2005, 08:07 PM

No filter? No light? You can't cycle your tank without a filter. Other than that, your tank looks good for a start knowing that it's 8x6".

**ianiwane** · 11-21-2005, 08:10 PM

I have a temporary light on it right now one of those screw in power compacts.

Raphael · 11-21-2005, 08:13 PM

Ok, just out of question. Why don't you buy a filter from your LFS?

daFrimpster · 11-21-2005, 08:33 PM

I am Just curious why a tank wouldn't cycle without a filter?

Raphael · 11-21-2005, 08:43 PM

Well, you can but it's not recommended, you need a filter to keep it going and you'll find yourself doing water changes very often without one.

**ianiwane** · 12-31-2005, 12:10 AM

cool Marc, let me know how that works out when you try it. I have a red sea nano filter on it now.

Ian

figgy · 12-31-2005, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ianiwane

i hear you figgy but I am also trying to see what will grow in the tank.

Ian

Gotcha--I do the same!

The filter Marc just posted looks like what you'd get if you followed Goldfishcrazy's homemade directions. As slick as it is, I still wouldn't bother with a filter on such a small tank--just too visually obtrusive to my eye...and you definitely don't need a filter to cycle a tank--if something poops or rots, chemistry happens!

Fig

krazykidd86 · 01-15-2006, 02:25 AM

What type of aquasoil did you get? I like the look, and thinking about it myself. How does it compare to ecocomplete? I'm thinking about mimicking your tank style..hehe, hope you dont mind

**ianiwane** · 01-15-2006, 05:58 AM

its the regular aquasoil amazonia from aqua forest. Its like 16 for a bag that will do about 4 ocean free tanks. Are you a member of SFBAAPS?

**ianiwane** · 03-14-2006, 07:23 PM

can't take credit for any of the moss, in the front. I planted it like that. The weeping moss and juncus did grow a lot though. I am going to put pressurized co2 on this thing, haha. How crazy is that. I got an ada mini regulator. I will post pictures when I have it available.

Ian

deeplove · 03-14-2006, 07:56 PM

You should try a moss wall to see if you like it or not. Moss walls are pretty cool. And if it doesn't tickle your pickle, then you sell the extra moss. Win - Win situation I must say.

endparenthesis · 03-14-2006, 07:34 PM

On the whole cycling thing... bacteria needs its food brought to it. It'll grow on whatever, but if there's no water movement only a minimal amount of bacteria is going to be able to survive.

Plants are somewhat the same way... movement usually makes for better growth.

So a filter might not technically be necessary, but it (or anything else that causes movement) helps for reasons beyond filtration.

No filters in nature, but stagnant water is pretty gross in nature too.

Anyway, moot point now.

**ianiwane** · 03-19-2006, 01:13 AM

Update added pressurized CO2, ADA regulator/canister.

h20 plant · 03-19-2006, 09:19 AM

Man that thing is going to be growing out of control, nice! Where did you get the weeping moss and is that fission in the middle?

11-21-2005, 08:02 PM	#1
ianiwane Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (48/100%) Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: San Francisco (mainland transplant from Hawaii) Posts: 1,463	Nano 8x6 inches (update 4/21/06 on last page) what do you guys think? 11/21/2005 No filter on yet. Ordered a nano filter, and coralife mini aqualight. It is an ocean free tank thanks to Boun. Substrate is ada aquasoil. Update 12/03/2005 Got the mini aqualight (18 watts) no filter yet. Things look like they are growing. Soon I will take out some plant species. Any opinions on what I should take out or leave? Plants Juncus repens Polygonum muricatum Hygro sp red Hemigraphis trian Downoi Utricularia sp. weeping moss Ammania sp Bonsai Fauna Cherry shrimp Male endlers Ian Last edited by ianiwane; 04-22-2006 at 01:15 AM..

11-21-2005, 08:33 PM	#5
daFrimpster Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (16/100%) Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: springfield, IL Posts: 837	I am Just curious why a tank wouldn't cycle without a filter? __________________ Regards, Sam 20g planted 20g & 29g fw fish only 10g Hex planted 55g planted 65g SW Macroalgae & Fish 175g FW

12-31-2005, 12:10 AM	#7
ianiwane Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (48/100%) Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: San Francisco (mainland transplant from Hawaii) Posts: 1,463	cool Marc, let me know how that works out when you try it. I have a red sea nano filter on it now. Ian __________________ SFBAAPS 120cm ADA tank, DIY Stand 6 gallon rimless cave tank 60cm ADA tank 50 gallon Nano

01-15-2006, 02:25 AM	#9
krazykidd86 Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (45/100%) Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: USA Posts: 557	What type of aquasoil did you get? I like the look, and thinking about it myself. How does it compare to ecocomplete? I'm thinking about mimicking your tank style..hehe, hope you dont mind __________________ Aquascaping World Forum and Magazine

01-15-2006, 05:58 AM	#10
ianiwane Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (48/100%) Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: San Francisco (mainland transplant from Hawaii) Posts: 1,463	its the regular aquasoil amazonia from aqua forest. Its like 16 for a bag that will do about 4 ocean free tanks. Are you a member of SFBAAPS? __________________ SFBAAPS 120cm ADA tank, DIY Stand 6 gallon rimless cave tank 60cm ADA tank 50 gallon Nano

11-21-2005, 08:07 PM	#2
Raphael Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: London Posts: 48	No filter? No light? You can't cycle your tank without a filter. Other than that, your tank looks good for a start knowing that it's 8x6".

11-21-2005, 08:10 PM	#3
ianiwane Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (48/100%) Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: San Francisco (mainland transplant from Hawaii) Posts: 1,463	I have a temporary light on it right now one of those screw in power compacts.

11-21-2005, 08:13 PM	#4
Raphael Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: London Posts: 48	Ok, just out of question. Why don't you buy a filter from your LFS?

11-21-2005, 08:43 PM	#6
Raphael Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: London Posts: 48	Well, you can but it's not recommended, you need a filter to keep it going and you'll find yourself doing water changes very often without one.

03-14-2006, 07:23 PM	#11
ianiwane Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (48/100%) Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: San Francisco (mainland transplant from Hawaii) Posts: 1,463	can't take credit for any of the moss, in the front. I planted it like that. The weeping moss and juncus did grow a lot though. I am going to put pressurized co2 on this thing, haha. How crazy is that. I got an ada mini regulator. I will post pictures when I have it available. Ian __________________ SFBAAPS 120cm ADA tank, DIY Stand 6 gallon rimless cave tank 60cm ADA tank 50 gallon Nano

03-14-2006, 07:56 PM	#12
deeplove Planted Member (View User Tanks) PTrader: (3/100%) Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Miami Posts: 241	You should try a moss wall to see if you like it or not. Moss walls are pretty cool. And if it doesn't tickle your pickle, then you sell the extra moss. Win - Win situation I must say. __________________ Power at its best is love implementing the demands of justice. Justice at its best is love correcting everything that stands against love.

03-14-2006, 07:34 PM	#13
endparenthesis Planted Tank Obsessed (View User Tanks) PTrader: (11/100%) Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: VA, USA Posts: 339	On the whole cycling thing... bacteria needs its food brought to it. It'll grow on whatever, but if there's no water movement only a minimal amount of bacteria is going to be able to survive. Plants are somewhat the same way... movement usually makes for better growth. So a filter might not technically be necessary, but it (or anything else that causes movement) helps for reasons beyond filtration. No filters in nature, but stagnant water is pretty gross in nature too. Anyway, moot point now.

03-19-2006, 01:13 AM	#14
ianiwane Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (48/100%) Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: San Francisco (mainland transplant from Hawaii) Posts: 1,463	Update added pressurized CO2, ADA regulator/canister. __________________ SFBAAPS 120cm ADA tank, DIY Stand 6 gallon rimless cave tank 60cm ADA tank 50 gallon Nano

03-19-2006, 09:19 AM	#15
h20 plant Planted Member (View User Tanks) PTrader: (2/100%) Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: San Jose CA Posts: 218	Man that thing is going to be growing out of control, nice! Where did you get the weeping moss and is that fission in the middle?

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