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Old 07-04-2012, 06:40 PM   #1
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Tractor Supply got a new shipment of Black Diamond blasting abrasive, yesterday, so I bought 100 pounds. This is a closeup of what it looks like...







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Old 07-04-2012, 06:59 PM   #2
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I can't find that stuff around me.
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Old 07-04-2012, 07:21 PM   #3
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It's supposed to be the same thing as Black Beauty... if you can find that.

I googled around and found a company called United Western Supply, in Seattle that might cary something like it. Maybe give them a call. They list it as one of their products, on their website.
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Old 07-04-2012, 11:33 PM   #4
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I have looked and looked and the only one carrying this is Tractor Supply, Co., unfortunately the closest one to me is about a 2 1/2 hour drive one way.

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this stuff is great (and cheap), but make sure to thoroughly rinse it or you could end up with an oil slick on your tank!
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Old 07-05-2012, 12:22 AM   #6
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Is it just me, or does it appear to be too abrasive? I'd be concerned with my corys with that stuff in there. It does look amazing though
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Is it just me, or does it appear to be too abrasive? I'd be concerned with my corys with that stuff in there. It does look amazing though
it's not so bad, i've run my hands through it for hours cleaning it and came out fine... cory barbels usually disintegrate due to water quality, not "sharp substrate" which is more of a myth than anything. i've heard a good number of success stories (and no failures) with black diamond and cories- search "black diamond cories" on the forum or just google if you don't believe me.
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it's not so bad, i've run my hands through it for hours cleaning it and came out fine... cory barbels usually disintegrate due to water quality, not "sharp substrate" which is more of a myth than anything. i've heard a good number of success stories (and no failures) with black diamond and cories- search "black diamond cories" on the forum or just google if you don't believe me.
I believe you, but I know all about cory barbels disintegrating from water quality. I was referring to their bellies really. :O

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I believe you, but I know all about cory barbels disintegrating from water quality. I was referring to their bellies really. :O
I'm looking at it @15 megapixels, and I can't see any sharp edges... nothing even close to glass. There are sharp angles, but everything is rounded. I'm more worried about what looks like metal flakes everywhere. It's almost like Edward fell into a batch and got chewed up in the machine... hopefully.
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Old 07-05-2012, 01:26 PM   #10
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Is it just me, or does it appear to be too abrasive? I'd be concerned with my corys with that stuff in there. It does look amazing though

my 6 peppered cories are fine
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I keep a raphael, dragon gobies, cory cats and many more bottom dwellers over blasting grit. Mine is a finer grade. In most of my tanks, it is mixed with natural gravel or eco-complete for a bit more natural churned up kinda look.
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There is metal of some sort in black diamond. If you run a magnet up and down the bag you will hear tiny grains following it...... is it harmful to our fish ? Who knows !
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Old 07-06-2012, 06:12 AM   #13
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There is metal of some sort in black diamond. If you run a magnet up and down the bag you will hear tiny grains following it...... is it harmful to our fish ? Who knows !

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Nonsense. People.. if you haven't got 1st hand experience with this stuff please refrain from FUD. This stuff is silky, not abrasive in any way. Yes it is BLASTING MEDIA but if you know anything about sandblasting you know that this stuff is on the bottom of the aggressive scale for it's purpose. No catfish is going to suffer from it. No iron is going to turn your hands black. There no no OIL in it. It is thoroughly washed before it's bagged. Some particles will tend to float when you put it into water but will settle quickly. If you read the NUMEROUS threads on here you will see that it's an inert sub with no CEC value that is suitable for just about any scape.

It is also NOT the same as Black Beauty. That is a different brand, and not to be confused.

People on the west coast have trouble getting it. You might want to call ATI (1-800-343-0117) and register your thoughts with them.
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Old 07-06-2012, 12:47 AM   #14
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I use this, very cheap, a bit weird when washing it, but totally safe. Bottom dwellers fine with it, mbuna moved mouthfuls of it, all good. Plants grow in it, too.

It is sand blasting grit/sand.

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Old 07-06-2012, 03:05 AM   #15
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Maybe that's the Iron they refer to, when they describe it's contents.
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