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Old 12-22-2011, 05:27 AM   #1
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This is the place to talk about Cryptocorynes. Ask questions, share growing secrets, post your successes, worry about your melting crypts, and to help fellow site members. Don't worry about staying on topic ...as long as it's about crypts...it is the topic.

Please start with a list of your current Sp. So others may know who to ask about individual sp.

Bankanensis 'Dwarf'
Becketti
Bullosa 'Sarakei'
Bukit Ibam 'Yellow-Ring'
Bukit 'Merah'
Cordata 'Blassii'
Cordata 'KR01'
Cordata 'Rosainberg'
Ferruginea
Cordata 'Thailand'
Hundorio
Keei 'Jambusan'
Longicaudia 'Pudimgbesar'
Minima
Moehimannii
Nevelli
Noritoi
Nurri
Parva
Pygmea
Striolata
Usterianna x Walkeri
Walkeri-Lutea
Wendetti 'Red'
Zukalii

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Old 12-22-2011, 05:32 AM   #2
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***PM me and I'll update this post

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Old 12-22-2011, 01:48 PM   #3
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"This brand new Cryptocoryne, is a Cultivar, created from a mutation in the wild of the C.cordata species, and bred to grow to this rare Flamingo pink colour. Because it is produced in a Tissue Culture laboratory, it is supplied in a plastic culture dish, but can be readily rooted by the Hobbyist, and will grow and spread out, over a matter of 2-3 months. ''

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Old 12-22-2011, 09:01 PM   #4
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Can't wait for my Flamingo to come in and then die because I don't know WTF I'm doing with it!
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Old 12-23-2011, 09:34 PM   #5
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Can't wait for my Flamingo to come in and then die because I don't know WTF I'm doing with it!
Mine is in transit between Orlando FL and Ohio since 12/21. Earliest I will get my package is 12/27. At USPS.com tracking said the expected delivery date is 12/22. Of course, USPS customer service is not helpful at all. I hope when/if I get it on 12/27, it won't be a pile of mush.
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Old 12-23-2011, 10:20 PM   #6
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OK, let me try this from a different standpoint instead of me preaching at you...

You guys who are growing these "rare" cryps, what helpful information can you share on your success with these plants? Particularly those that you are able to propagate.

A) what are the growing conditions you are providing?
B) how long have you had the plant?
C) how long is it taking to see growth? How many plants have you been able to propagate from one plant?
D) have you tried to alter growing conditions in any way to improve growth? Altered water chemistry, altered substrate, changed lighting...

E) Do you know anything of the natural habitat of that particular specie that you can share? Is it a black water Cryp? Is it known to be a bog plant, swamp plant, or deep water plant?
F) Can you post photos?

None of this is meant to be a judgement, but information that we can all learn from.

Nood, I was reading your journal, and many of the plants look like they are doing well. I get the impression you have had them for a relatively short time. Can you share anything you have learned from keeping these plants? And would you mind telling me where you are getting them and who Nick is?

I realize this is lots of questions, but I am really trying to get more info out of you guys. It would be very helpful to me and I am sure many other people reading this.

You cannot just make the assumption that all Cryps are the same and should be able to grow in any aquarium, because thats really not the case
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Old 12-24-2011, 02:59 AM   #7
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Well, yes and no. There are many, many Cryps species that will absolutely not grow underwater...
Robert - if they will grow in nature underwater they will grow in an aquarium under water. Just because we haven't figured out the right combination doesn't mean it is impossible.

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Old 12-23-2011, 10:55 PM   #8
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Mine is in transit between Orlando FL and Ohio since 12/21. Earliest I will get my package is 12/27. At USPS.com tracking said the expected delivery date is 12/22. Of course, USPS customer service is not helpful at all. I hope when/if I get it on 12/27, it won't be a pile of mush.
Same here. Still says expected delivery of 12/22. I'm REALLY hoping it'll get here tomorrow and not next Tuesday!
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Old 12-23-2011, 11:35 PM   #9
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Default Growing C Keei and C Affinis

C keei and c affinis proves to be very prolific in my 90g hard water tank. I had both plants for over two years and I get one or two runners emerging from the substrate from each mother plant a month.

Here are some general growing info:
They're grown in tap water from Glendora. TDS meter shows that they are on the harder side with 330-340 ppm. I have two eheim classic 2217 and 2 mesh modded octopus 1000 needlewheel for CO2 and current on both ends of the tank.

I use earthworm casting with a red clay mix as the main substrate. The worm poop is capped with very used aquasoil.

I do not dose nutrient into the water column but I do have a school of cardinal tetras that are fed every other day.

Every square inch in the 90g has movement and saturated co2. Movement and CO2 distribution can be read by looking at the flow of the tiny CO2 bubbles suspended in the water column. You can see this in the two photos below.

In my experience, the key in keeping these crypts happy are stable parameters, good current, continuous supply of nutrients, and ample co2. Lighting is not so important, given that its sufficient.



C keei is a hard water crypt but I also have them grown in my 55g soft water CRS tank. There is no difference in growth pattern. However, emergent growth is a different animal. I cant seem to keep it alive...

I have c sp bukit ibam and c uenoi grown in this tank as well. They're alive and growing but not at the same pace as keei and affinis. These are doing much better in a soft water tank. I'll post some info on them later.
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Old 12-22-2011, 09:12 PM   #10
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Chad gave me a tiny baby of Flamingo a while back and it never grew for me in my tank. Suffice to say it later disappeared. I'm not sure if Chad was ever able to grow it out either... maybe he'll chime in.
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Old 12-22-2011, 10:21 PM   #11
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I see you posted my thread on nurii leaf variations I need to update it with new pics, I've finally figured out what's happening the leaves are starting with long petioles and rounder light green leaves as the leaf matures its getting really broad and dark colored and really looks a lot like a wendetti leaf grown under high light, I have it growing right next to a wendetti mi oya and the mature leaves are almost identicle other than some dark hashes on the nurii..

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Old 12-22-2011, 10:22 PM   #12
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I have great suspicion about that bizzarly unnatural color. I do have to think it would not be that much unlike other Cordata Sp. If when new what they "built" it from that might help.
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Old 12-22-2011, 10:25 PM   #13
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I have great suspicion about that bizzarly unnatural color. I do have to think it would not be that much unlike other Cordata Sp. If when new what they "built" it from that might help.
Just like every other crypt out there it will probably look different in every tank
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Old 12-22-2011, 11:27 PM   #14
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Nice start guys. I dont have the time to jump on board right away, but I will find the time this weekend. Speedie, I do have a Flamingo left but its a sorry little tiny piece but it has put out 3 leaves this month so its at least finally acclimated and growing. In 3-5 short I should have a full size plant
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Old 12-22-2011, 11:42 PM   #15
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Here is another blog that I visit frequently. A lot of good info.
http://natureye.com/
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