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Old 12-03-2011, 04:25 AM   #1
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Default Jasmine's low tech planted goldfish tank!

Hello All!
This is my first journal, i have been keeping goldfish for about four years now and i absolutely love them!
At the moment i have two fancy goldfish, they started out living in a 29 gallon tank after about three years i decided that they have come close to out growing their tank, so i bought them a fifty five gallon tank.



They love it!

But then i got hooked on plants and i just had make their tank planted! Hopefully it will reduce my water changes and provide a more healthy environment for them!

So after modifying my hood for my new light and going through the motions of setting up a dirt tank i have created this...









Specs:
55 gallon tank
Solarmax HE 2 bulb light fixture (2 10k t5no bulbs)
Miracle grow organic choice potting mix capped with pool filter sand
1 whisper ex 70
1 whisper ex 45 (both with homemade filter pads and purigen)
jager 150 heater

Flora:
Ludwigia Repens
Cryptocoryne Crispatula var. Balansae
Red jungle Val
Corkscrew val
Amazon sword
Cryptocoryne Wendtii Green
Water sprite
Cryptocoryne Retrospiralis
Dwarf Sag
Pennywort

Fauna:
Two fancy goldfish
Two albino cories
Pond snail
Nerite snail
Ramshorn snail

If i left anything out that you would like to know just say so!
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Old 12-03-2011, 04:55 AM   #2
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Fantastic! I bet you love those plants. I'm really glad you started this journal. I can't wait to see how both of our tanks turn out. Maybe someday we could start a group for planted goldfish people here. It would be cool to have them all linked.
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:53 PM   #3
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Fantastic! I bet you love those plants. I'm really glad you started this journal. I can't wait to see how both of our tanks turn out. Maybe someday we could start a group for planted goldfish people here. It would be cool to have them all linked.
Good idea Gold Finger! I'm a newbie, first post actually. My first tank in 30 yrs is 20 gal, two sarasa comets with plastic plants and 80 ppm nitrates, so I planted anubis and anacharis 4 months ago. Nitrates slowly going down. I know I need a larger tank and have also become interested in ripariums. A planted goldfish group would be a big help to beginners like me.

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Old 03-17-2013, 04:22 PM   #4
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Good idea Gold Finger! I'm a newbie, first post actually. My first tank in 30 yrs is 20 gal, two sarasa comets with plastic plants and 80 ppm nitrates, so I planted anubis and anacharis 4 months ago. Nitrates slowly going down. I know I need a larger tank and have also become interested in ripariums. A planted goldfish group would be a big help to beginners like me.

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I agree. But good for all levels not just beginners. Sharing advances everyone even experts. Lets do it. Whadda ya think Jaz? Any thoughts on a name? "Cult of the Great Gold Fish"?

P.S. I don't have any science on hand to show you but I believe that the secret to growing goldfish big and fast (not that that is necessarily a good goal in and of itself but it can and does reflect health) is super low nitrates (and lots of food of course). I would suggest you try to get your nitrates as low as possible. Planted tank people like ~20ppm and up to ~40ppm because it favors plant growth but any nitrate above a certain concentration is stressful (poisonous) to fish. I aim for 5ppm and know it will slow plant growth but allow my fish to live 40+ years and not get sick.
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Old 12-03-2011, 05:17 AM   #5
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Hurray for planted goldfish tanks!

I really thought about using Miracle Gro Organic under my sand, but the stuff I bought wouldn't sink in water, even after having it in a test bowl for over a week. I would scoop out whatever was floating, and the next day it was all gross again. Even with a sand cap, I think it would have made a mess. I couldn't find anyone having the same problem, so I figured I had a bad batch, but decided to stick with root tabs anyway. I'll have to give my next tank a better plant foundation.

I bet your goldfish love their home!
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Old 12-03-2011, 05:50 AM   #6
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Goldfinger- It would be cool! I know my plants have a long way to go but i really hope my vals, ludwiga and amazon swords grow big and strong because they can really make an elegant looking tank!

mjbubbles- hmmm, maybe your sand was too fine.....just a thought and sifting out the bigger wood chunks could help there too if you didn't do it that is. I really hope they like it, lol. And that they leave the plants alone, i had some pennywort floating in the tank for a week or so and they pretty much left it alone except for a nibble here and a nibble there but no real picking on it or chowing down. I hope that with the gel food i feed them and the kale, brine shrimp, oranges and what ever else i feed them that they will not have the need to eat my plants!
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Old 12-03-2011, 07:09 AM   #7
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What are those pebbles at the top left for?
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Old 12-03-2011, 07:13 AM   #8
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It's Walmart suction cup holder thingy for the shower, I have pothos growing in it as a riparium plant to help suck out ammonia and nitrates.
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Old 12-03-2011, 08:18 AM   #9
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Cool... i am thinking to have some riparium plants as well in my 10g since i have a lot of those small plastic cups that came with plants..
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Do it, for me it's the hope that it will help suck out the ammonia and nitrates but eventually it will look really pretty!
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Old 12-04-2011, 01:28 PM   #11
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Do it, for me it's the hope that it will help suck out the ammonia and nitrates but eventually it will look really pretty!
I've just done it... lol..
check it out in my sig (ryukin's)
Pothos are cool
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Old 12-04-2011, 02:47 PM   #12
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Its cute!
But i must urge you to upgrage her tank to something more like a thirty gallon.....i have read that while in a small tank that when goldfish stop growing their organs continue to grow...=/ im not sure if its true though.
Her fungus/parasite could most likely be cause by the size of her tank.
A goldfish that size produces so much ammonia, that tank probaly needs whater changes once a day or more to keep up with her bioload. Bad water quality leads to sickness....and yada yada yada.

Im not being mean, or trying to lecture you, i have been in the same shoes as you. Im only trying to educate.

A good substitute for a tank for her, if you dont have one on hand or the money to buy one at the time is a large rubbermaid container from walmart or some other big box store. Just reinforce the sides a bit add a filter and tadaw....goldfish tank!

The gab.org is a great site to help educate about goldfish, they are really friendly when it comes to newcomes who need help. They even have a sick fish forum and probably will be able to help you with what ever is going on with Dorthy!

Please dont think im trying to be mean or judgemental, i know how it feels for someone to tell you your doing everything wrong, if you have any questions id be happy to answer them for you!

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Old 12-05-2011, 01:40 AM   #13
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Its cute!
But i must urge you to upgrage her tank to something more like a thirty gallon.....i have read that while in a small tank that when goldfish stop growing their organs continue to grow...=/ im not sure if its true though.
Her fungus/parasite could most likely be cause by the size of her tank.
A goldfish that size produces so much ammonia, that tank probaly needs whater changes once a day or more to keep up with her bioload. Bad water quality leads to sickness....and yada yada yada.

Im not being mean, or trying to lecture you, i have been in the same shoes as you. Im only trying to educate.

A good substitute for a tank for her, if you dont have one on hand or the money to buy one at the time is a large rubbermaid container from walmart or some other big box store. Just reinforce the sides a bit add a filter and tadaw....goldfish tank!

The gab.org is a great site to help educate about goldfish, they are really friendly when it comes to newcomes who need help. They even have a sick fish forum and probably will be able to help you with what ever is going on with Dorthy!

Please dont think im trying to be mean or judgemental, i know how it feels for someone to tell you your doing everything wrong, if you have any questions id be happy to answer them for you!

Jasmine
Yep I just read about the stunting symptom. Planning to get a pond or just return back the fish to lfs... Thanks for your info sharing.
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Old 12-03-2011, 03:06 PM   #14
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goldfish are my favorite especially ryukins XD
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Old 12-03-2011, 03:24 PM   #15
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Really! Do you have any pictures of your tanks?
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