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Old 09-13-2010, 09:23 PM   #1
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I recently broke down my 29 gallon and restarted. The plants are recuperating from their stay in 10 gallon tank. The mountain I created to put moss and ferns closer to the light. Also put pcv tubes in it to create hiding places for Apistogrammas in holding tank. Doesn't blend in well. What can I do to make it blend in more, besides adding rocks?

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Old 09-14-2010, 03:48 PM   #2
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I think one thing that makes the mountain stand out is that it is kinda block-ish if you want it to look more natural try something without the straight edges and corners.

I like the various levels of it though. I don't see the pvc so that must be blended pretty well.
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Old 09-14-2010, 04:00 PM   #3
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You could grow some Fissidens on the "rocks." Though over time they're going to get some algae growing on them and that will help them look more "natural" too.
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You could grow some Fissidens on the "rocks."
I shall try to get some on Ebay when it gets cooler. Not to long till then! The Fissidens look easier to deal with than the xmas moss, which I have on the top.

I just read that it grows in a ball. lauraleellbp have you ever grown it?
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I think one thing that makes the mountain stand out is that it is kinda block-ish if you want it to look more natural try something without the straight edges and corners.
Yeh, I agree. I thinking of putting some baked sculpty clay on the sides, during a water change, to simulate this.

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Thats a cool idea. I'm trying to build a mountain/castle for my future apistos. I'm carving it out styrofoam like people do with back grounds. if your interested in trying that then the cichlid-forum.com is an excellent source.
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I'm carving it out styrofoam like people do with back grounds.
I saw one do that for a betta tank. She covered it with plaster. It took months for it to cure and the parameters to settle. Is this what you are talking about? Send me a link to it, please.

Well here I found someone whom used Drylock instead of plaster paris and curing time was short.

Future plan is to do what Fishbreath did with rock, eggcrate (drop ceiling flourescent light diffuser) and expanding foam on the left side. I used some flimsy chicken wire. Seems you never stop planning on what to do with the scape.

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Here's a great "ball" of Fissidens fontanus, growing on a rock in Joe Faria's tank: http://forums.tfhmagazine.com/viewto...p?f=82&t=26519

I recommend you get some from another hobbyist rather than from Ebay, though- you'll get a whole lot more moss, and a lot less risk of it arriving all crispy.
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Here's a great "ball" of Fissidens fontanus, growing on a rock in Joe Faria's tank: http://forums.tfhmagazine.com/viewto...p?f=82&t=26519
Wow!! That is really cool!
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I recommend you get some from another hobbyist rather than from Ebay, though- you'll get a whole lot more moss, and a lot less risk of it arriving all crispy.
Yeh, I know I have had that happen before. It is only $3 though so I jumped in and bidded it for it. I have green slimmy hair grass in the planted tank now, thus should have waited until got that under control. I wish I would stop being impulsive.
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I'm using the drylok method. Just have to wait for things to dry. I'll probably rinse it before I put in the tank. Once in the tank I'm going to keep an eye on the pH but the beauty of the drylok method is that it shouldn't change the pH much if at all.

Here is a showcase of DIY backgrounds on the cichlid-forum. Malawi_Junkie and mightyevil are two users that use the drylok method.
http://www.cichlid-forum.com/phpBB/v...c.php?t=206914
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tuvw218 you comments have nothing to do with aquariums or this thread. I question the reason you posted links. I wonder if they are spam.
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I'd say the research the sculpty clay idea. Might be your best option. Keep informed on how it works out. I'm interested in options for making ones own decor.
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Old 10-13-2010, 03:43 AM   #13
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I'd say the research the sculpty clay idea. Might be your best option. Keep informed on how it works out. I'm interested in options for making ones own decor.
It will be awhile. For out of work now. I still buy a few fish, etc. Can't seem to stop spending on this hobby. Don't want to start the project with the sculpty clay for it is hard to estimate how much I would need to buy and once I get started I don't want to stop.
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Now I have replaced the 3T8s with a Coralife T5NO fixture. Not happy with the affect on the background so changing it.
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Old 11-30-2010, 03:24 PM   #15
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Well, I got tired of the diy mountain and took it out. Next will be trying to mimic a cave. I have a nice rock with holes, which can be bought at pet store. I think this will be easier to accomplish.
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