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newday3000 12-16-2009 01:58 AM

My 2nd pond build 3000G... in progress
I had so much fun building and learning with my first pond . I started a 2nd pond in the same summer.

I hand dug this hole in the ground approx 2800G plus water fall, total water volume will be 3000G. 6 weeks of digging in the middle of summer. I wont' do that again. I think I will spring for back haul if I ever dig another pond. No more yard left anyway.
Liner is in

full of water

rough in of the water fall about 4' high but I need to lower it, testing water flow. Need to redesign in the spring.

How it looked in the fall with leaf netting.

waterdog1 12-16-2009 03:43 AM

arent you going to hide the liner?

Centromochlus 12-16-2009 03:45 AM


Originally Posted by waterdog1 (Post 960228)
arent you going to hide the liner?

In his other pond thread, he said this one is not yet complete.

So i'm assuming the liner will be hidden. :)

newday3000 12-16-2009 03:52 AM

yes, next year I'll be getting a truck load of flagstone, to surrond the pond and cover the liner. Winter came so I stopped working on it. and started building the ice rink :)

dr.tran 12-16-2009 03:55 AM

Very cool. I assume koi? But what do u plan to keep in there?

CL 12-16-2009 04:34 AM

It looks really cool so far. Is it deep enough to prevent complete freezing up there in Canada? haha
Subscribed so I don't miss this one in the spring :):thumbsup:

newday3000 12-16-2009 12:23 PM

I plan on Koi. Not that many, I generally understock tanks and ponds. I plan on getting good quality Koi at about 6". I can get imported from Japan locally or drive to a Breeder in Toronto. I'm no Koi expert but like the look of Koi in a pond.

The pond is almost 5' deep in the middle and most ponds if 30" deep in Canada will allow you to overwinter the fish under the ice.

Aqua'd 12-22-2009 11:22 PM

Looks like you've got a good start, are you planning on doing higher end koi (they can get pretty pricey!)? Or just a nice "natural" pond with koi in it?

newday3000 12-23-2009 01:59 PM

for me high end is $100 a fish. I will start with some cheaper $40 Koi first. A breeder near me offers very nice 8"-10" fish for $200-$300.

Karackle 12-23-2009 04:59 PM

Very cool project! Can't wait for spring to see how it comes together! :proud:

Church 12-23-2009 05:18 PM

Looking forward to Spring!

newday3000 04-16-2010 12:18 AM

Well, winter's gone, so I started work again.

I'm working on the filter system before I add fish and landscape it, everything in the pics will be hidden eventually but getting the water flow right now is much easier without landscaping in the way. Few pic's of what's been done.

Drained the pond cleaned a bit and refilled it. nice and clear right now, see right to the bottom.

Filtering plans changed a bit. I tested gravity return with 2" flex pvc return from 55G barrel and flow was crap. Not enough head height to get good flow. I decided I would bottom feed the barrel with 1.5" and then let it gravity return into 60G preformed water fall return. You can see barrel at the top and black preformed with spillway that dumps into the waterfall collecting basin.

I decided to go with dual pressurized and unpressurized solution so I took the 1.5" pump flex pvc and split it into 2 (planning on 3rd split later if I need it) one feed goes to pressurized filter with 9 watt UV that I can turn on. This should help filter out suspended stuff. the other split goes up the hill to the barrel filter that feeds the water fall. I can control the flow to each split with ball valve's inline. Very easy to put more through the pressurized or vice versa.

I'm thinking the barrel filter with scrubby pads and 60G pre-formed will quilt batting will be biological filter and have slower turn rate pushed through it.

top of barrel

top of 60G return with spill way

picture from first pond showing where the 2nd pond is located. kinda thinkg I went pond crazy last year but should look good once it's all landscaped and has fish in both ponds. My first pond overwintered very well all fish survived under the ice just fine.

Next step is likely add fish and place order for $$$ flagstone to get delivered.

Planning on adding floating skimmer and pump on a timer to keep stuff off the bottom, add better pre-filter to the pump. possible upgrade 2500GPH pump to 3600GPH.

CL 04-16-2010 12:35 AM

Amazing work so far. I would love to own your backyard ;)

newday3000 04-16-2010 12:39 AM

it's turning into a money pit literally!!! but it's been fun so far. My goal was to get rid of grass, but now I think the goal is to have water and fish everywhere.

newday3000 04-18-2010 01:21 PM

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I ordered 1 ton of flagstone to my house for this week, that should be fun to move to the backyard.
I decided since I have a tree over part of the pond that a floating skimmmer would be a good idea. Thought I would roll the dice on this floating skimmmer off of ebay, not sure who makes it but floats around and skimmers at 660GPH should clean up the surface well enough.

I also added 3 small Koi (3" each) to have something swimming around. Waiting on more orders of Koi to buy some bigger better quality Koi in a couple weeks.

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