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DiscusIt'sWhats4DinneR 08-22-2008 06:44 AM

ADA rocks at landscape supply places?
wondering if anybody has had luck in finding nice pieces of ADA style rock, like the seriyuo stone or zebra stones at landscape supply type of places,

there is a local place here called Tommy Rock that deals with large rocks for landscaping purposes. i was thinking of going there to see if i can find some bigger 1 foot high 20 lb chunk size pieces of interesting stone for a large iwagumi style layout.

my lfs has a sort of stones i like but they are all small.
i havent asked yet if they can order any larger size pieces.

have you ever seen any ADA style stones anywhere besides inside an aquarium?

does this ada "seriyuo stone" have a common name?
im trying to find a way to find big pieces, locally and low costing, an internet order would be a bit of a shot in the dark because i wouldnt get a chance to hand pick anything.

Minsc 08-22-2008 08:05 AM

If you have a rock yard nearby, it is definitely worth going to see if you can find rocks you like, the savings over something purchased at an LFS or online is ridiculous.

I haven't seen any rock quite as nice as the ADA stuff at a landscaping place.
However, I bought a trunk full of two types of hand selected lava rock, that I am very happy with, for $6:biggrin:

sostoudt 08-22-2008 08:18 AM

just when i was about to give up on finding rocks. i happened upon a small landscape business for ponds and waterfalls they had zebra stone. you almost gaurenteed to have to find a specialty place that would deal with in decorative stones.

p.s. i got 40 pounds for 12 dollars.

DiscusIt'sWhats4DinneR 08-22-2008 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by sostoudt (Post 673508)
just when i was about to give up on finding rocks. i happened upon a small landscape business for ponds and waterfalls they had zebra stone. you almost gaurenteed to have to find a specialty place that would deal with in decorative stones.

p.s. i got 40 pounds for 12 dollars.

.30 cents per pound compared to $4 dollars/lb....
ohh wow..
thank you, that gave me something to go on.
looks like im going digging in the yellow pages tomorrow to find a place that specializes in ponds/waterfalls, hopefully i can find just what im looking for.

i have never been to the place i posted above, but i have some feeling they deal more with large amounts of gravel, river rocks and that sort of thing. i dont know if i would be able to pick out 5 or 7 pieces of zebra stone from those guys, but it's worth the phone call to find out anyway.

i like the look of the zebra stone but am picky with it. i like pieces with much more black than white, and without any large white patches. otherwise it looks artificial and like it doesnt quite belong in the tank. i like em real jagged too. so i could spend a while picking them out.

im starting a large, open type black/white theme tank. black background, whitish sand, zebra stones, and all white/black fish, will be interesting.

MedRed 08-22-2008 09:42 AM

there has to be some place that sells these rocks in the US other than AF. I ran across a thread that had places in europe that carry it.

there has to be some sort of geological name for this rock and someone has to collect/carry it.

I'd probably say it's some sort of sedimentary rock of some sort.

DiscusIt'sWhats4DinneR 08-22-2008 10:12 AM

I was at aquaforest twice.. about a month ago, but wont be able to get back there for a long time.

i got to see the seiryu stone up close in person, it looks awesome.
shouldve probably got it there, but i didnt feel like it.

i would be real happy if i could find out a geological scientifical factual name for that seriyu stone, i like it better than the zebra rock, its more jagged.

i did find a place close by from the google business finder that deals with decorative stones...

DiscusIt'sWhats4DinneR 08-22-2008 11:11 AM

after hours of research of rocks and zen and bonsai gardens, learning to read in japanese i have concluded that this ADA seiryu stone is some sort of black granite.

i found another place locally that deals in bonsai garden stuff, i might go there and check it out.

MedRed 08-22-2008 04:08 PM

granite would also make sense... i said sedimentary because of the rocks ability to raise the ph... but granite can have a lot of feldspar in it which has calcium.

MedRed 08-22-2008 04:16 PM

bingo discus... the mystery is cracked. here's a link to some rock in dallas

I'll also go and visit my local bonsai stores and see what I can come up with.

DiscusIt'sWhats4DinneR 08-23-2008 02:05 AM

today i went to Nee Hai Bonsai.

it was an interesting place, those bonsai trees are neat stuff.

anyway, they had a small assortment of ying tak penjin stones.
maybe i was wrong, perhaps it isn't a granite. i now believe the seiryu stone to be a limestone of this type. it was a dark charcoal gray with the white veins.
some were bonded together with concrete to form sort of skyscraper shaped stalagtite looking things. i was told that these are hand formed in china.

there was one rock garden display there, about 4'x4' that looked like a "dry iwagumi." with the stones. and some light green mossy ground cover plant. the stones were tall, jagged and narrow. some were almost 2 feet tall and about 8 inches around.

very neat. now at least i have a better idea of what i am trying to look for.
the bonsai place only had stones that were bonded with concrete, i want the raw stones with no concrete. so i will try to find some elsewhere.

DiscusIt'sWhats4DinneR 08-23-2008 02:16 AM

check it;

this one too.

interesting..there are a lot of rocks that look similar although formed a bit differently.

while at the bonsai place i asked if there was anywhere else similar stones could be found. he told me of a place on the edge of town with all sorts of funky decorative rock. i will go there soon and see what i can come up with.

skoorbza 08-23-2008 04:05 AM

Hope you are successful, Discus. If not, I would try asking local professionals (as you did at the Bonsai place). Fish clubs, landscapers, artisans, anyone else like that you can think of might give you some ideas of where to look in the area.

Left C 08-23-2008 04:40 AM

The site that DiscusIt'sWhats4DinneR linked ( ? ) has some amazing great looking rocks. A few have calcite or limestone, but there are still many different rocks to pick through. They are beautiful!

About 70 miles from me is a huge deposit of light green rocks. I don't remember what they are called now. They are near Badin Lake, NC. I believe that they would look very good in some aquariums. There are also many granite and aluminuim quarries in that same region.

The first gold strike in the US was discovered about 15 miles away in Concord, N.C. In 1799, a 12-year-old boy playing along Little Meadow Creek when he should have been in church found a 17-pound rock, which served as a doorstop in his family's home until it was identified as gold in 1802 the first documented discovery of gold in the new United States. Here are some more info:

wickedj 08-23-2008 05:02 AM

Im relatively new to the planted aquariums and i was wondering what type of rocks are safe to use in an aquarium? What to look for?

MedRed 08-23-2008 06:52 AM

i'll go to my bonsai places this weekend and see what's up. limestone would make sense since it hardens the water. I orginally thought these rocks were sedimentary which would fit. I'll know for sure once i get my hands on some. I'm quite the geologist!

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