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larns576 09-12-2013 03:13 PM

New Fire Red/CRS Tank help
Im new to shrimp keeping and just started a 10g specifically for shrimp. I am hoping to keep Fire Reds / CRS in there. It's been running about a month with ADA Amazonia and has finished cycling and stopped leeching Ammonia already.

I am concerned about the water parameters and how to get them ideal for both species, especially the CRS. Currently it is at:

10g with plants and lots of moss
Water is plain tap water with Prime
Temp 76-78F w/o a heater
Ammonia 0
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 10
ph 6.4
TDS 53
KH 1
GH 2

Should I get something like Seachem Equilibrium to bring the GH and TDS up?
Should I add in a piece of Malaysian driftwood? I am afraid it will lower my ph too much.

somewhatshocked 09-12-2013 03:24 PM

Since you're new to shrimp, just start with Neos (Fire Reds). They're going to be easier for you.

But if you insist upon keeping both, you'll need to do a lot more research and reading here on the forum. There's tons of information about remineralization products specifically for CRS. Salty Shrimp, Shirakura, Mosura, et al.

For Crystals, you'll need a GH of probably 5, KH as close to 0 as possible. Those parameters aren't exactly ideal for Neos, which do better in harder water. (Neos will live and breed in those parameters, though).

larns576 09-12-2013 09:55 PM

Alright, just purchased some salty shrimp gh+. I am hoping to raise CRS mainly, Fire Reds secondary.

I just tested the pH and it's now at 6.0. Am I dipping into the dangerously acidic side of the spectrum? Will I need to supplement with some sort of calcium to help protect /build new shell? But that would raise Kh too, wouldn't it?

somewhatshocked 09-12-2013 11:20 PM

You'll be aiming for GH 5ish, KH 0, TDS something like 150ish. Hardness is much more important than pH. That's about where Amazonia 'sets' so don't worry about that part.

Go to the sticky in the Shrimp forum. Read everything in it a few times. That'll explain water conditions and everything else. I can't recommend that enough.

Unikorn 09-17-2013 01:42 AM

Will the amazonia substrate effect the Neos negatively in any way? ex. PH is too acidic

larns576 09-17-2013 03:45 AM

I moved some fire reds from my pH 7.6 tank to this pH 6.0 tank 48 hrs ago and they seem to be doing well so far. No deaths or signs of stress and all appear to be eating well. Some females are berries, but not sure if it happened before or after the move (thinking before). I saw maybe 4 shrimplet during acclimation, but could only see 2 today. I'm unsure if they died or are just hiding in the somewhere.

Others may have more experience with Neos in a low pH environment

sbarbee54 09-17-2013 04:06 AM

Yeah need to get gh up to about 5 and your kh should be 0 with Amazonia or your test it is off. Also tds from 150-170. I would also try and get your temps down to about 74

Ph that low not ideal for neos, they will live and breed but baby survival might be low

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