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talontsiawd 08-23-2013 02:17 AM

Filterless Riparium Style Mini Bowl---The Return
 
Welcome to my Filterless Riparium Style Mini Bowl.

I actually had this all setup nicely about 3-4 years ago, before all the cool kids started doing it. I had this AreoGarden thing that needed to be on for like 18 hours a day and it started to bug me (but worked really well). I then found a cable that allowed me to just use the light on a timer, found this little bowl thing and took a piece of driftwood and threw it in. I then took clippings, made something cool, and never took one picture. I even had some shrimp in it.

I got bored of it and just left it outside for a few years, watering it with my other plants. It used to have crazy emmersed growth but that died every winter. I started to use terrestrial moss instead of aquatic. I still have some DHG growing on it but that is about it.



My purpose of this "tank"....I saw OVT's vase a few weeks ago when he made me take a break from my wedding planning. After some long conversation, a giant dog and a few too many beers, he finally reveal his gem of low tech. I later found a thread on it, felt left out, and now am doing my own. I feel it is my obligation to at least try to compete with him, if not out do him, we will see.

My other reasoning is that I have a small recording studio, purposely dimly lit and need some life in here. I am thinking about doing something that is real sized but this will do for now. I need to paint, finish up my acoustics and other studio stuff before I commit to a bigger tank.

My hope is that the tank is pretty set and forget. It's a place for my clippings, some extra life to inspire music and that is about it. I also plan to ditch the lighting and try LED's for the first time.


Basics:
20 oz Bowl (more or less)
AreoGarden 24 watt PC light (will go at some point)
Random clippings from plants

Here is how the startup went:

Cleaned bowl...Harder than I would have thought as it has been outside for 3-4 years. Dig out light/stand from garage, not so hard since I spent many hours cleaning a few weeks ago:

http://imageshack.us/a/img547/1424/e04z.jpg


Place driftwood...Simple enough, stick it in bowl:

http://imageshack.us/a/img821/6208/euov.jpg


Add Petco Sand. The stuff looks cool but likes to float. Hard to plant in. I may swap out later if it becomes problematic.

http://imageshack.us/a/img834/7509/5zy4.jpg


Added some clippings for tank. Didn't feel like planting, just added sand to bury them. It's a bit too deep but it's fine for now.:

http://imageshack.us/a/img541/6982/e4ug.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img832/4039/xhtq.jpg

Filled:

http://imageshack.us/a/img541/3125/0e7f.jpg

j03yYunG 08-23-2013 02:57 AM

I like the moss on the driftwood. :0

usgetata 08-23-2013 03:33 AM

I like it. It has the Chinese mountain ink painting feel.

OVT 08-23-2013 03:39 AM

o..O not fair, you are going retro on me. It actually looks great, love the wood. Looks like something out of Louisiana's bayos, with the dark, muddy waters reinforcement.

Maybe add patches of emmersed HC/HM/fis/rotala to the wood. This is where you can showcase fine jewellery level of detail, masked by 'hey, I just threw this together' nonchalance.

Seems to be missing hand-written "trespassers will be shot" sign :) on the wood. Maybe a baby gator as your Muse.

Blah, friendly challange accepted. The looser gets to drink all of the beer :).

v2

CheyLillymama22 08-23-2013 03:55 AM

Too cool!

talontsiawd 08-23-2013 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OVT (Post 4128450)
o..O not fair, you are going retro on me. It actually looks great, love the wood. Looks like something out of Louisiana's bayos, with the dark, muddy waters reinforcement.

Maybe add patches of emmersed HC/HM/fis/rotala to the wood. This is where you can showcase fine jewellery level of detail, masked by 'hey, I just threw this together' nonchalance.

Seems to be missing hand-written "trespassers will be shot" sign :) on the wood. Maybe a baby gator as your Muse.

Blah, friendly challange accepted. The looser gets to drink all of the beer :).

v2

Ironically, that is exactly the plan. HC worked really well the last time I did that, want to try some fissdens since I have some. It's really easy to grow stuff emmersed as the wood, especially with moss, wicks up a lot of moisture. I plan to keep it all aquatic but actually think I may try an Orchid as I have a tiny one growing off a big one.

talontsiawd 08-24-2013 01:00 AM

I will probably be updating this too much at first as it's easy to add to in it's current state. I have added some HC and some fissdens. I am also trying HC submersed, I may try glosso as well and see if they work instead of what is there.

I added a "keiki" from one of my orchids. It wasn't ready to come off but I hope the lack of roots helps me twofold. First, I hope it allows it to root around the wood, rather than me having to try to make it work later. My real hope is that it creates a Bonsai effect and keeps it small. I don't know enough about these plants to do anything but try it out. Worst case, it dies, I have 3 more growing off that plant. Not even sure what type it is haha. If it doesn't stay small enough, it has to go. I have used Anubus in the past so that is one of a few backup plans.

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/8489/uvm2.jpg

talontsiawd 09-01-2013 07:17 PM

Not the most interesting update but the Hydrocotyle is growing quickly. I may trim it very aggressively to try to make it carpet more but I also put a small piece of HC in and that is spreading, though very slow growing. I probably would need to almost carpet the whole tank for HC to work. The Orchid is growing roots and living, not sure if it will work long term but seems to be doing ok.

I have come up with a plan, just need to get some clippngs. I am basically going to plant a bunch of different types of plants in back with just a bit of order. Then I will trim them around the shape of the driftwood. I will then add some to the driftwood as well. Sort of a combination of Riparium and Wabi Kusa while trying to do a natural style tank.

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/7356/70hh.jpg

Jess123 09-01-2013 07:28 PM

That looks great, I want one!

talontsiawd 09-10-2013 01:52 AM

Just a minor change. I have extra HC so I am trying that in the "front". It really doesn't have a front but my viewing angle will be what I call front and photograph as the front. It may or may not carpet, I doubt it but I have done it before. I am putting plants in back that you cannot see that I like the emmersed growth. However, I may put some bog plants in instead, just not familiar with them.

The only problem I am having is evaporation. I need to drain it to get an idea of how many gallons, or how many fractions of a gallon it is. I get about 50% evaporation in less than a week. That is not problematic for anything totally under water or above water, just the emmersed stuff as it keeps transitioning from one to another.

Not so different pics:
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/1052/ojkg.jpg


http://imageshack.us/a/img89/2002/t0g2.jpg



I also made this for wifey, very low light plants, will probably get a small LED and move it elsewhere.

http://imageshack.us/a/img194/4030/bp94.jpg

talontsiawd 09-10-2013 04:55 PM

Weird question....I was wondering what effect insect repellent would have on plants and any potential live stock (I doubt it but maybe one RCS or something, has worked well in the past). Being that this has been outside, I have been noticing some new friends in my room and I am getting bit by something. Not sure if it's from the tank but I just want to get rid of these bugs or this is going back outside.

talontsiawd 09-11-2013 01:14 AM

So this turned out to hit the critical failure mark and has been taken down. I basically created an indoor mosquito farm. I plan to start over with the same idea soon. The only change is that the wood will be soaked for at least a few days to hopefully get rid of any insect live (had spiders as well). I will have to restart the bowl part as well as mosquito lava was present.

All in all, major fail on my behalf. Luckily didn't get too far into before this happened.

Chrisinator 09-11-2013 01:16 AM

That's awesome

OVT 09-11-2013 04:01 AM

Too sad :(

v3

talontsiawd 09-11-2013 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OVT (Post 4262313)
Too sad :(

v3

It will come back soon, I just don't have time to love it up. I just need to soak it and get the bugs out and try again. I am not giving up, I just don't need bite marks right now and I don't have time to deal with it ASAP. I think in a month or less, back up and running. The only way it won't happen is if the secret new tank takes that spot. I feel it should go on the back wall so shouldn't matter.


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