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TankMania 07-27-2013 03:22 AM

Stingray Help
 
I just bought a freshwater baby stingray today & after a while of swimming I noticed these things on him so I looked them up and there fish lice. I need help to get rid of them. What can I do do get rid of them, like what kind of medication can I use on a ray that wont kill him? Please help. I tryed the tweezer method & it did not work, there too small to grab. Hes the only fish in the tank w/ a bear bottom so they cant spread to other fish. Please :help:

ua hua 07-27-2013 03:40 AM

I would try again to remove the adult fish lice from the fish itself then dab the affected are with Methylene Blue or H2O2 to prevent secondary infections. Then treat the tank with an organophosphate such as Dimlin. I have had to remove anchor worms from some of my koi and it can be a pain so I can only imagine trying to remove a fish lice from a little stingray can't be very easy. I haven't ever had to treat a stingray so I'm not sure on how they would react to the treatment. Good luck and hope you can remove the adults that are attached but remember to treat the tank as directed on the bottle as a single louse can produce hundreds of eggs.

sumer 07-27-2013 04:22 AM

^^ Totally agree.
Very gently hold the fish and try to cover its eyes with a damp cotton towel so that it wont see anything. I dont know how poisonous the sting of a baby stingray can be! So google that up.
Try the tweezers that girls use to shape their eyebrows. They have much more flatter and precise tips. I can understand your pain. You would have spent quite some amount on it.
After taking those parasites off of its body, keep it in a different, very clean tank (bare bottom works great) and clean the current tank with some mild bleach solution and many times with clean water afterwards.
I also strongly suggest you to google this problem. There must be some dedicated forum for stingrays. Ask on many diff forums. Do everything that you can do. And dont add any medications without getting confirmed that what does it do.
Keep us updated.

ua hua 07-27-2013 04:48 AM

Take a read through this page or ask for some help on Monster Fish Keepers as their is people on there that keep rays and have way more experience than myself when it comes to these types of fish.


http://www.raylady.com/Potamotrygon/Health.html

TankMania 07-27-2013 06:23 AM

Update, I went to the store & got some of those girl tweezers you said, laid him in my palm & tryed to cover his eyes but he hated it so I just rested him in my hand & let him calm down so he dosent get hurt or too stressed. When he was all calm I started to use the tweezers & they worked great, It looks like I got all of them but not shure there might be some very small ones left but not 100% positive. He seems much happier that they are gone. I have my eye out for them now & understand what they are & what they can do. Thank you very much for the help, I will keep things posted on how he is doing. Thanks Again

Loco4Tanks 07-27-2013 07:01 AM

Aqua prazi or pond prazi would have been the cure
Also proform LA..... NOT Proform-C

sumer 07-27-2013 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TankMania (Post 3921681)
Update, I went to the store & got some of those girl tweezers you said, laid him in my palm & tryed to cover his eyes but he hated it so I just rested him in my hand & let him calm down so he dosent get hurt or too stressed. When he was all calm I started to use the tweezers & they worked great, It looks like I got all of them but not shure there might be some very small ones left but not 100% positive. He seems much happier that they are gone. I have my eye out for them now & understand what they are & what they can do. Thank you very much for the help, I will keep things posted on how he is doing. Thanks Again

I'm glad that its feeling relieved.
I hope you have kept it in a separate tank. Keep a close eye on it. Keep checking with flash light.

Loco4Tanks 07-27-2013 07:08 AM

I can't believe you did that by hand.. I'm sure they'll come back... Next time use medication made for it... Those two meds I mentioned are real forgiving and gentle on fish but effective,,, also they don't harm your filter's bacteria

sumer 07-27-2013 07:57 AM

Prazi would definitely have worked but when you actually can see the leech the best bet is to take it out by hands.
Sometimes wild caught altums will have these on their body and I will do this too. Gold fish are also easy target for these leech.
Absolutely there is risk involved in taking the parasites off manually. You have to be extra careful.

And now when there's no visible parasite on the body, he should go with prazi. Treat it in a separate tank with prazi.

Loco4Tanks 07-27-2013 08:01 AM

I would think prazi is a lot less stressful than plucking... Lol

du3ce 07-27-2013 03:49 PM

how big is your tank for your sting ray?

TankMania 07-27-2013 05:42 PM

Right now he is in a 55G because I am cleaning out his 125G to make shure there are no more of those fish lice. & where can I get some Aqua prazi or pond prazi near the denver area?

ua hua 07-27-2013 06:30 PM

Glad you were able to get the fish lice off but I would still treat the tank because if you can see the adults then there is eggs for sure and they will continue to come back. I don't know if the medications others have mentioned will be safe to use with a ray. Rays can be very touchy when it comes to using medications and after some searching I found an archived post from MFK and they recommend using the medication that I mentioned called Dimilin. Here is a post from that thread:

Fish lice
Stingrays in captivity are usually not susceptible to the common diseases of other tropical fishes. Occasionally, newly imported specimens may carry fish lice (Argulus spp.). These ectoparasites appear as small brown circular spots, about 2-3 mm in diameter, and are more readily seen on light-color stingrays. Fish lice are usually only observed in small numbers (i.e., 2-3) and if gently touched the parasite will skitter across the skin of the stingray. When on the dorsal surface, fish lice can be removed readily with forceps. When on the ventral surface, removal is more difficult as it is difficult to invert stingrays. In these circumstances, it is easier to pinch the parasite through a net, from underneath, in order to remove it. Sudden heavy outbreaks of fish lice may occur within an exhibit, without the addition of new stingray specimens. These outbreaks are probably caused by a few unobserved parasites successfully reproducing. Dimilin or diflubenzuron (e.g., Anchors Away®, Jungle Laboratories Corp., USA), a chitin inhibitor non-toxic to fishes, is effective at treating fish lice outbreaks at a dosage 2,650 mg l-1. This treatment should be repeated once after a two week period.


Edit: I have found some conflicting info out there about Prazi being used with rays. A few people have said they used it with their rays and they were fine but I also found a post that said on the bottle of Prazi pro in the fine print it says a lot of anti parasitic meds are not good for catfish and rays, so I would suggest looking at the bottle of Prazi and see what it says but use at your own risk.

sumer 07-27-2013 06:48 PM

^^ Wow.
Thanks for the great info.
I'm sure this will help him a lot.

TankMania 07-27-2013 07:04 PM

Wow,Thanks this is extreamly helpfull, I wasent shure on which one to get. Do they sell that medication in fish stores if so which ones?


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