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samwoo2go 05-11-2013 10:35 PM

First Iwagumi Attempt
 
Decided to try my hand at Iwagumi (first try at planted tank too!). Twist, I am trying to do a semi-low cost (but quality), high tech tank by making and/or finding as much stuff as possible, so I'll be keeping track of cost as well.

5/4/13: Got a 10 gallon at the Petco $1/gal sale and derimmed the top. Found some cool rocks for free by the river. Got a bag of MGOCPM.

Total Cost Thus Far: $20

Dirt added and first attempt at rockscape

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...k/IMG_4915.jpg

samwoo2go 05-11-2013 10:40 PM

5/5/13: Decided the rock looks like a penis and rescaped. Capped with pool filter sand bought from Leslie's Pool Supplies.

Total cost thus far: $30

Rescaped and sand cap added
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...k/IMG_4916.jpg

Closer look at the rocks
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...k/IMG_4917.jpg

Before and after comparison
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...nk/Compare.jpg

samwoo2go 05-11-2013 10:53 PM

5/11: Bought 3 pots of HC Cuba and divided it up and planted. I am going to go with DSM on this tank.

Light is a single 23W 5500K CFL vertical in a 6.5" IKEA lamp, mounted 14" above substrate. 12 hours burn period on a timer. Too much light, too little? I might go with 2 lights later for a more even spread.

Total cost thus far: $61

Front
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...k/IMG_4922.jpg

Top
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...k/IMG_4918.jpg

Angle
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...k/IMG_4921.jpg

cephelix 05-13-2013 09:24 AM

Are you planning to grow them via DSM or straight up flood the tank?

Quite like the arrangement of the rocks though I personally would angle them more.

jimmytruong87 05-13-2013 04:17 PM

Good luck with algea . HC will melt down . DSM is not good way for HC

samwoo2go 05-14-2013 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cephelix (Post 3353874)
Are you planning to grow them via DSM or straight up flood the tank?

Quite like the arrangement of the rocks though I personally would angle them more.

DSM for a couple months.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmytruong87 (Post 3355002)
Good luck with algea . HC will melt down . DSM is not good way for HC

Care to elaborate? I've seen plenty of tanks successfully convert emersed HC form to immersed HC form as long as you nuke the tank with CO2 in the first 3 weeks of flooding.

dasob85 05-14-2013 02:24 PM

no idea about the light, but yea dsm for like a month and a half should be good. I had no problems transitioning

amsreorb 05-14-2013 02:53 PM

I'm new at this. What does MGOCPM stand for? I would love to see how cheaply I can do these sorts of tanks as well, so I will be following this thread closely. Thanks for the updates.

samwoo2go 05-14-2013 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amsreorb (Post 3362618)
I'm new at this. What does MGOCPM stand for? I would love to see how cheaply I can do these sorts of tanks as well, so I will be following this thread closely. Thanks for the updates.

Miracle Grow Organic Choice Potting Mix. You can search for it on this forum. I would advise you to take the time to pick out or sift out all the larger particles like wood chips. I got lazy and didn't do it, and kind of regret it now. Hopefully my sand cap will be enough to hold the floaties down.

In terms of cost, I want to do it for cheap, but I still want quality, so I save when I could and spend when I should. The MGOCPM is a much better saving if you are doing a big tank (40+). I paid $10 for a huge bag and only used about 1/6 of it if that. Still cheaper than ADA Amazonia, but savings would've been exponential if I had a bigger tank.

alexei 05-14-2013 05:31 PM

the one rock looks like Jabba the Hutt... I like it.

amsreorb 05-14-2013 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samwoo2go (Post 3363594)
Miracle Grow Organic Choice Potting Mix. You can search for it on this forum. I would advise you to take the time to pick out or sift out all the larger particles like wood chips. I got lazy and didn't do it, and kind of regret it now. Hopefully my sand cap will be enough to hold the floaties down.

In terms of cost, I want to do it for cheap, but I still want quality, so I save when I could and spend when I should. The MGOCPM is a much better saving if you are doing a big tank (40+). I paid $10 for a huge bag and only used about 1/6 of it if that. Still cheaper than ADA Amazonia, but savings would've been exponential if I had a bigger tank.

Thanks for the response. I am working my way through my first planted tank. I am just using the Flora Substrate from the store because I figured it was easier, plus since I am keeping it at school and using it in my science classes, my school is going to pay the expenses for it. I am still trying to keep the cost down, but it is not as important right now.

samwoo2go 05-19-2013 07:01 PM

5/18 Bought some Osmolite Plus root tabs for more nutrients and rigged up a DIY paintball ASA on off setup with Swagelok B-ORM2 needle valve.

Total cost thus far: $120

Got some visible growth going!

Front
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...k/IMG_4932.jpg

Top
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...k/IMG_4933.jpg

DIY Paintball CO2
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...t/IMG_4926.jpg

tylergvolk 05-19-2013 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samwoo2go (Post 3345074)
5/5/13: Decided the rock looks like a penis and rescaped. Capped with pool filter sand bought from Leslie's Pool Supplies.

Total cost thus far: $30

Rescaped and sand cap added
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...k/IMG_4916.jpg

Closer look at the rocks
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...k/IMG_4917.jpg

Before and after comparison
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...nk/Compare.jpg

"Decided the rock looks like a penis and rescaped."

Too funny! lol :icon_lol:

Everything looks good bro.

Your DSM will be successful if you blast the co2 and reduced the lighting period to 8-10 hours after flooring.

I like the scape but the little rock on the left is distracting...

Nice rock find by the way..

limz_777 05-19-2013 10:05 PM

like the new placement of rocks , but i would slope the back area more

plantbrain 05-20-2013 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmytruong87 (Post 3355002)
Good luck with algea . HC will melt down . DSM is not good way for HC

I guess I failed pretty badly eh?

Next time do not set yourself up to be proven very wrong.

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u...dgepruning.jpg

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u...ll180week4.jpg

A few thousand folks have done extremely well.

So........

Common mistakes: sealing the tank up too much, it's better that it's not 100% humid, leave some opening, just enough to get a little condensation.
I can grow HC outside in full sun in California's dry weather if I water daily. I have had it growing on my bonsai. Freezing temps kill it though.

Poor CO2 is the most common killer once people flood their tanks, the DSM avoids the CO2 issue, so any one should be able to grow a nice lawn in while dry, but the DSM saves NONE if they cannot grow HC well submersed, which are quite a few folks.
I'm not one of them.


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