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padupre 04-30-2013 03:17 PM

New Project - ADA Style Journal
 
Hey guys,

I've been into this hobby for like 5 years now, but just getting back after
2 years out of it.

I've always been a big fan of ADA works and now I want to start a project
like that.

Down here in Brazil imported stuff are veeeeery expensive and we only have
one place that represents ADA. So itīs very hard to find their products here.

To start, about 2 weeks ago (it takes about 4 to get ready) I ordered a tank (looks like ADA, itīs rimless but itīs not crystal clear) size 60 x 35 x 35 (I'm gonna use meter ok?)

And on the next day, I got an Eheim Ecco 2234 canister from Cobasi (it's like Pet Smart), a Jebo overhead lightining and a CO2 Set from Ista (1 liter).

I'm gonna put the prices on the top of the pics, so you guys can have an idea
of how expensive things are down here. Just divide it by 2 and you'll get dollar amount.

R$ 300,00 (that was kind of cheap, it usually runs around R$ 500,00)
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/5282/imagejkq.jpg

R$ 150,00 (got it from second hand, it runs around R$ 500,00)
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/4099/imagehytr.jpg

R$ 570,00 (the store had it on sale, they're not gonna sell Eheim anymore, so this runs around R$ 700,00)
http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/7277/foto1sh.jpg




To be continued...

padupre 04-30-2013 03:27 PM

What I've been doing for the last 2 weeks is let the canister run on a bucket, so it will do a fishless cycle and speed up the process (I'm adding NH3 to it).

So you guys can have an idea, these are the tanks I had on the past...

What always had me down was the size of the tanks (too small, the cube is 30
x 30 x 30) that always limited my work.

http://imageshack.us/a/img33/7052/nano5x.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img856/3658/nano4.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img515/4316/nano3.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img59/3936/nano2.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img820/2844/nano1q.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img829/7030/cubo3.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img507/922/cubo2.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img692/402/cubo1z.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img213/6262/ambos.jpg

padupre 04-30-2013 03:29 PM

Last week, I got this:

R$ 60,00 (I think itīs about the price anywhere around the world)
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/3388/imagezuu.jpg

padupre 04-30-2013 03:46 PM

So yesterday I had some stuff to return to Cobasi (Pet Smart like) and with the credit I got an Eheim Ecco 2232 for R$ 510,00 (again, this is not the real price, Eheims are on sale).

I'm gonna run it in serie with my Ecco 2234. I always think that overfiltration is never a bad idea.

Here's how I set this up.

I put the 2232 on the inflow and the 2234 on the outflow.

I'm not sure how Iīm gonna set the filtration order on these.

Should I put the blue sponge at the bottom of the 2232 then add a little
Eheim Substrate Pro and on the 2234 add the rest of the Substrate at the bottom and some activated carbon at the top (I'm gonna have carbon for at least 3 weeks)?



http://imageshack.us/a/img12/5183/foto13ph.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img826/4083/foto23b.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img13/3433/foto42yd.jpg

In serie:
http://imageshack.us/a/img6/8377/foto25uz.jpg

Finally I went to the ADA distributor and got a few hardscape items:

Any idea of what kind of rock are these? (it looks like Dragon Stone)
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/1489/foto43w.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img689/4513/foto52xd.jpg

look all the mess...luckily that's my spare office...LOL
http://imageshack.us/a/img577/391/foto33ym.jpg

junglefowl 04-30-2013 03:57 PM

New Project - ADA Style Journal
 
Petsmart in the US don't have EHEIM canister filters.
Your nano tanks look so fantastic!!!

padupre 04-30-2013 04:14 PM

Ok, so we don't have ADA Stands down here in Brazil, so I'm gonna have to
get one made (as close as possible to the original stand).

This is what I'm gonna have for mine (all black).

But I still have to wait for the tank to get ready, so I can confirm the measures.

http://i43.tinypic.com/eas039.jpg

So now I look forward to hear what you guys think about my project.

Am I at the right track?

Thanks

padupre 04-30-2013 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by junglefowl (Post 3256930)
Petsmart in the US don't have EHEIM canister filters.
Your nano tanks look so fantastic!!!

Thks dude...but are you sure about they not having Eheim canisters?

Iīve seen a lot o people saying they got theirs from Pet Smart :icon_eek:...and at least online they do have it...I just checked it...

pweifan 04-30-2013 04:42 PM

Your previous tanks look great. It looks like you're doing a good job of selecting "clean" looking equipment to look like ADA. Looks great!

What's the advantage to running the two filters in series? I've never seen that done.

padupre 04-30-2013 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pweifan (Post 3257186)
Your previous tanks look great. It looks like you're doing a good job of selecting "clean" looking equipment to look like ADA. Looks great!

What's the advantage to running the two filters in series? I've never seen that done.

Thks for your reply.

Running filters in series is a very common practice in Japan, started by Takashi Amano.

The idea is to have as much possible area for the bacteria to grow.

In japan, is very common to see a small tank with 16 liters of biological media on it.

So, first of all, the advantage to have 2 (or more) canister is: Maintenance. You can clean a filter per month and you still giving time for the bacteria to stabilize in the other canister.

Second of all, on a planted tank you want less water movement, so you don't mess with the plants co2 absorption, otherwise you could just put the 2 canisters running separately on the same tank (but 4 pipes inside a tank wouldn't loo too great on a ADA style tank).

Take a look at the link below, itīs from Eheim Japan...
http://www.eheim.jp/subfilter_feature.html

If, like me, you don't understand anything at all (LOL), do a little google translating...

Hope it helps.

pweifan 04-30-2013 10:23 PM

Thank you for the detailed reply! I'm going to investigate this more.

MrAlmostWrong 05-04-2013 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by padupre (Post 3257378)
Thks for your reply.

Second of all, on a planted tank you want less water movement, so you don't mess with the plants co2 absorption, otherwise you could just put the 2 canisters running separately on the same tank (but 4 pipes inside a tank wouldn't loo too great on a ADA style tank).

Are you sure about this? I was always under the impression that you want as much water movement as possible to make sure there are no dead spots and that all gases and nutrients are even exchanged throughout the tank? Obviously you don't want enough that it uproots every single plant in the tank.

chew 05-04-2013 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrAlmostWrong (Post 3285218)
Are you sure about this? I was always under the impression that you want as much water movement as possible to make sure there are no dead spots and that all gases and nutrients are even exchanged throughout the tank? Obviously you don't want enough that it uproots every single plant in the tank.

You want movement so there are no dead spots and fertilizers & co2 is distributed throughout the aquarium, but you want minimal surface agitation so the co2 doesn't gas out. I've seen some of the larger ada tanks with 4 pipes but those are 120 or 180s. I looked at the conversion rate and man those are some expensive eheims.

padupre 07-07-2013 03:47 AM

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AnotherHobby 07-07-2013 04:46 AM

That looks great!

Couesfanatic 07-07-2013 05:39 AM

how about a closer pic and a plant list?, looks awesome


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