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jbrady33 04-11-2013 08:24 PM

REVAMP - Planted HOB spillway for AquaClear HOBs UPDATED AGAIN! (Cleaning)
 
August 18, 2014
Got tired of so much H.Japan, tried something new!

Experimenting with Dragon's Tongue (according to the tag from Lowe's it's Hemigraphis repanda - beats me). A terrestrial plant that is supposed to be ok in boggy conditions but not underwater. Going to plant it just on the top sponge, not in the 'spoon'. I wonder if dwarf baby tears would grow in the spoon?

Here we go!
Step one, grab the fist full of H.Japan from the top and rip out (very technical)
before:
http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/pH...40818_004c.jpg

After (with black top sponge removed):
http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/pH...40818_006c.jpg

Next, make a huge mess in a company bathroom sink rinsing ALL the soil from the roots (yes I cleaned it up before anyone saw and I didn't clog the sink, strained it all out)
http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/pH...40818_002c.jpg

"plant" the little plantlets in the sponge, poke a hole with a bamboo skewer and thread through
http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/pH...40818_008c.jpg

All Planted:
http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/pH...40818_009c.jpg

Back on top! Now I just hope it grows and doesn't melt into mush.
http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/pH...40818_012c.jpg

http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/pH...40818_014c.jpg





New - Disassemble, clean & replace pics on page 3!

(How to at bottom of post)
NEW PICS! The spillway is doing very well, and the part on the sponge in the body of the HOB is taking off now too. Have to watch that it doesn't clog the impeller! :) The moss and ricca that started the spillway is swamped by the other plants now - probably acting as a substrate now

http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/pH...WP_000992c.jpg

http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/pH...WP_000998c.jpg


Ok, the how-to is still below, but here are some pics at a month out that might explain a little better how it goes together (was swapping out the purigen with a recharged one)

There are 2 pieces, the spillway on the outflow of the filter and the "sponge Wabi-Kusa" that goes on top of the media stack

http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/pH...0844_Copyc.jpg

The spillway removed
http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/pH...0847_Copyc.jpg

http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/pH...WP_000845c.jpg

The "Sponge Wabi" :) It is all on top of or in the sponge piece

http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/pH...WP_000848c.jpg

How the sponge fits in the filter stack
http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/pH...WP_000849c.jpg



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Here is my take on a planted HOB - this design should work on any Aquaclear and I'm sure can be modified for other makes. This design leaves the interior of the AQ full of media, the plants grow on the screen and into the extra sponge on top. It also works well for calming down the turbulence in my shrimp tank.

This is version 2.0, the first used plastic mesh screen and the plants slid right off! :)

First you need a chunk of Stainless screen, For my AQ30 it needed to be 4x6. I got mine from H4N here on the board, asked for something stiff enough to hold it's shape and with the holes a bit bigger than a filter guard. Spent some time with my leatherman pliers to turn it into this shape, sort of like a ladle or a high heeled shoe. This is by far the hardest part:

http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/pH...WP_000746b.jpg
The part that goes in the tank ends up in a spoon shape, the arched part has to be bent over on itself to fit in the mouth of the HOB. I rolled all my edges as I went so nothing sharp sticks up.

You will also need a chunk of coarse foam if you want to do the top of the HOB media stack, I used a chunk of the coarse black foam from a Marineland canister refill. Note that it is so coarse you can see through it. Cut a piece into a rectangle the to cover the top of the media stack.

http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/pH...WP_000743c.jpg

Now put it together like this. The "handle" of the spoon shape fit into the HOB between the case and the media, the black sponge goes on top of the media stack, you can tuck it under the handles you use to pull the media out. Even if it isn't submerged, that is ok - it will wick water up and stay moist all the time.

http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/pH...WP_000748b.jpg

Now plant it! I put riccia in the 'spoon', the edges hold it in place - it is actually growing above the water surface, beautiful green. I tied moss (xmas, fissidens) to the 'walls' of the spoon, that is just starting to fill in.
On the arch of the spillway is more moss, Hydro Japan (I think - little vine that looks like clover?).
At the sponge/spillway joint I tucked in some little struggling anubias, red stem clipping, more moss. stems are taking off.
On top is more moss, Purple Waffle (house plant from home depot), a rhizome of rabbits foot fern and an African violet leaf. The last 2 are experiments - don't know how well they will do as hydroponic only plants :) Violet will probably grow but not flower, the rabbits foot is a long shot.

What do you think?

http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/pH...WP_000758c.jpg

http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/pH...WP_000752c.jpg

http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/pH...WP_000753c.jpg

http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/pH...WP_000754c.jpg

Cyanider 04-11-2013 09:20 PM

Very cool! I am actually trying this with plastic mesh draped down (no floating effect like yours). If it fails I'll give this a shot

jbrady33 04-11-2013 09:30 PM

I tried plastic mesh first, basically word but kept straighten back up, and when the riccia got too heavy it slid right off and made a mess in the tank.

Here was that version
http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/pH...=WP_000657.jpg

Imi Statue 04-11-2013 09:45 PM

What does it look like from underneath the water surface? I have thought of this before but just never really like the idea of it hanging into the tank due to looks. Your idea here might just change my mind.:thumbsup:

sayurasem 04-11-2013 10:04 PM

This is so nice!

So where the black sponge go? On top of the mesh? Basically what is the riccia sitting on?

jbrady33 04-12-2013 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imi Statue (Post 3095834)
What does it look like from underneath the water surface? I have thought of this before but just never really like the idea of it hanging into the tank due to looks. Your idea here might just change my mind.:thumbsup:

It's only a 3 gallon tank, so very hard to see underneath :) The edges of the 'spoon' have moss tied to them, but the bottom is just SS mesh. If done on a taller tank you could also tie moss to the bottom to cover the mesh.

jbrady33 04-12-2013 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sayurasem (Post 3095978)
This is so nice!

So where the black sponge go? On top of the mesh? Basically what is the riccia sitting on?


The black sponges goes in the HOB on top of the stock filter material, like a lid. Doesn't go down into the tank at all.

The ricca is sitting in the bowl of the SS Mesh 'spoon', and having the bowl shape has kept it matted together better than having a flat ramp (so far)

This might give a better idea of what I am thinking when I say a 'spoon shape', imagine the ricca sitting in the spoon.

http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/pH...WP_000334c.jpg

But the bowl is shaped more like a rice spoon
http://www.fishseddy.com/prodimg/rsvpcssw.jpg

DogFish 04-12-2013 01:06 PM

Great DIY project idea! Thanks for posting.

VisionQuest28 04-14-2013 11:29 AM

This is pretty cool. Couple questions...how are you attaching the plants to the mesh? And do you find this impedes the flow of the filter? Like if the sponges in the filter get clogged, the water level rises in the filter, and some water starts to over flow the intake side, and also has potential of over flowing the back of filter.

mrbooz8787 04-26-2013 01:46 AM

love this i have a ac 50 on my 36 bow front may give this a shot

Michael T 04-26-2013 04:52 AM

Wow, really awesome idea. I will be using this DIY project. Thank you

jbrady33 05-01-2013 08:09 PM

growing in nicely
http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/pH...WP_000791c.jpg

GreenBliss 05-01-2013 09:18 PM

Beautiful jbrady33!

umdterps96 05-01-2013 11:50 PM

Planted HOB spillway for AquaClear HOBs
 
Looks good

PinkRasbora 05-03-2013 03:42 AM

wow nice


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