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Kirbybtf 04-01-2013 03:50 AM

Shrimp breeding
 
I just set up a shrimp breeding evolve 4 and an having trouble deciding what would be best for my first time breeding. Any suggestions? They will be going to my LFS and in to the raok thread till I breed something worthwhile. Also I have an otto, hill stream loach, and nerite snails in the tank currently, will that pose a problem for breeding?

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MABJ 04-01-2013 04:02 AM

Shrimp breeding
 
It poses a problem for those fish, which all need bigger tanks.

Ottos need a minimum of 6g with 4-6 friends.

Hill stream loaches are out of my knowledge, but a quick google shows they need 30gals plus.

Kirbybtf 04-01-2013 04:13 AM

Both are babies, the hillstream was in my cichlid tank and was getting beaten up so I moved him for now. The otto I didn't know about! I always seem them in nano tanks and assumed it was ok. Thank you for the info!

Nubster 04-01-2013 04:37 AM

Yeah, ottos definitely a schooling fish.

jake10 04-01-2013 04:50 AM

As far as shrimp. Start simple. Neos are fantastic also malawas are in my opinion better because they are full of such personality and color variance. You can keep malawas with any type of shrimp and they won't interbreed. Both are super easy to keep and will give you much satisfaction with breeding and entertainment. If you are looking for a vendor for malawas hit up Bryce (soothing shrimp) I think he also has some neos

Kirbybtf 04-01-2013 01:32 PM

Re: Shrimp breeding
 
I'm thinking CRS. How are those for beginner shrimp?

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Soothing Shrimp 04-01-2013 01:38 PM

Not yet. They are too sensitive to take learning curves. Neos are the tanks of the shrimp world, although I think the idea of Malawa is an excellent one as well. Those suckers outbreed my cherries even.

Kirbybtf 04-01-2013 02:19 PM

Re: Shrimp breeding
 
To me Malawa look like fancy ghost shrimp. I'd like something with color that people would be excited to get in a raok. Neos seem a bit pale in color or maybe it's just the pictures I'm seeing. Any ideas?

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Soothing Shrimp 04-01-2013 04:19 PM

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LOL Do these look pale to you?

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Now admittedly I've selectively bred for dark color, and the occasional transparent green or blue is thrown, but I don't think this looks like ghost shrimp. :icon_mrgr They are not as solid as higher grade cherries though, and still have a translucent quality to them.

As far as cherries, it really depends on what grade you get. Check this link out to an old thread. Keep in mind, since this thread was made, PFR were bred into a true strain and are stable http://www.aquaticquotient.com/forum...re-Red-Shrimps

Another nice thing is that "cherries" come in different colors as well. Just about any color is hardy, but yellows people tend to have a challenge with in breeding and sometimes even keeping alive. The strain you get is kind of a crapshoot with them thar yellers.

Kirbybtf 04-01-2013 04:46 PM

Re: Shrimp breeding
 
Those look amazing! I haven't been looking at the right pictures clearly! I do plan on "thinning my herd" and selling off the pale colored shrimpettes, while keeping the darker bred. If it works well I will know I can do it with crs. Are the Malaw fairly cheap? I'm looking to start a colony of roughly 10-15.

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Soothing Shrimp 04-01-2013 04:54 PM

You can selectively breed with any shrimp. On the upside you get better traits of what you want, on the downside it costs money, time and space. But there's pros and cons to everything in life. It just depends where you want to focus your finances and energy.

I'll pm you on the Malawa.

pmcarbrey 04-01-2013 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Kirbybtf (Post 3001090)
Those look amazing! I haven't been looking at the right pictures clearly! I do plan on "thinning my herd" and selling off the pale colored shrimpettes, while keeping the darker bred. If it works well I will know I can do it with crs. Are the Malaw fairly cheap? I'm looking to start a colony of roughly 10-15.

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Just a tip: I always start colonies with 20-25, I also only start with the highest quality stock I can find. If you are looking to make money breeding or have stock worth keeping and breeding buy from the best quality stock you can find and cull heavily.

Kirbybtf 04-01-2013 05:15 PM

Re: Shrimp breeding
 
As this is my first attempt I'm going to start slow in my evolve 4 and see how it goes. If I enjoy the process I'll upgrade to my 10, 30, or even 55 gallon! I can't fit that many shrimp in my 4 gallon :p I heard its. 5-6 per gallon correct?

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Nubster 04-01-2013 05:19 PM

I'd say more like 10. Shrimp have a pretty low bioload so you can get a lot of shrimp in a tank without affected the water quality. There's folks on here that have hundreds of shrimp in a 20 gallon tank. 40-60 in a 4 gallon tank shouldn't be an issue.

Soothing Shrimp 04-01-2013 05:29 PM

+1 Once beneficial bacteria is established, you can start breaking the 10 per gallon rule.


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