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Chris.d514 03-19-2013 05:19 AM

Need help creating a scape
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I have a 4.5g nano dimensions are 13.75"x8.25"x9.25". I have 1" Amazonia base, fluval 20g co2 kit, 2211 with lily pipes, and finnex 26w epoch light. I have started growing DHG for a mat but not sure where to go past that. Tank has Sakura Shrimp, Oto Cats, Chili Rasboras, Ramshorn snails, and nerite snails. Looking for help with choosing plants and hard scape as well as placement.
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Chris.d514 03-19-2013 10:05 PM

Need help creating a scape
Any help will be greatly appreciated.

thelub 03-19-2013 11:13 PM

Do you have anything to work with for the hardscape? Do you have any ideas of how you want it to look? Its hard to just throw out ideas if you don't have a direction you want to go with it.

Chris.d514 03-19-2013 11:30 PM

Need help creating a scape
I have nothing for hard scape I want to add some black rock to stand out against the green but unsure which type to get and where to get it from. I need something that is shrimp friendly. I would like to have some plants that add other colors to the tank as well. I'd like an oped field of just the DHG in the center and maybe going to the front left side with the rock formations in the back left. Other than that I have no clue where to go. Bunched plants or moss wall hiding equipment? Shorter stem plants at the base of hard scape?

thelub 03-20-2013 12:58 AM

Local rock quarries or landscaping supply shops usually have nice rocks and you avoid spending the premium that you would at your LFS. Maybe you could find something you like there.

Here are a lot of good examples that you may find inspiration from.

Chris.d514 03-20-2013 02:02 AM

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I like this kind of setup. Not sure where to start though.
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Farmer 03-20-2013 04:07 AM

Hi Chris,

If you want a tank similar to the one's above there are a few things you should look at. First notice how the substrate in nearly all the tanks you look at is higher at the back than at the front? This is to create the illusion of greater depth. This is one thing your tank needs.

Secondly it is best if you have a lot of options when you are choosing which rocks to use. That means if you intend on using say 3 rocks in your tank than have maybe 10 to choose from. I agree with thelub about where to get rocks. But depending on where you live you might be easily able to find rocks for free that you like. Have a look around, go out of town, have a look on the side of roads etc. I have never bought a rock for a tank in my life.

When you have your rocks it would be a good idea to get a cardboard box as close to the size of your tank as possible, you can even make one considering your tank is so small. The reason for this is you can cut the top and most of the front out of the box, just leave say an inch or a bit more of a lip on the lower front edge. So you have a replica of your tank in which you can fiddle with your placement without having to work in underwater etc. Just put some other gravel or potting mix or something in as substrate .

That way you can take a photo of what you like and ask for suggestions/help and it is easy to change it. Once you are happy then you transfer that hardscape to your tank in one move.


Chris.d514 03-20-2013 02:57 PM

I can definately add some more aquasoil to the backand slope it. I asked on my local forums if any knows of a good place to get rocks and will go look when I find a place.

Farmer 03-21-2013 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by Chris.d514 (Post 2885018)
I can definately add some more aquasoil to the backand slope it. I asked on my local forums if any knows of a good place to get rocks and will go look when I find a place.

Good boy, that will be a great start.:icon_wink


Chris.d514 03-22-2013 06:43 PM

Need help creating a scape
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How's this?

thelub 03-22-2013 06:49 PM

The grouping of rocks will get lost once you have plants and things in there. Try making less of a pile. That big one looks nice and might work better if it is sitting tall instead of laying down.

Might try to make it look more like a rubble pile that fell so the big one is on one side and the smaller ones "flow" away from it. Those are nice rocks and I think you should be able to come up with something pretty nice with them.

Chris.d514 03-22-2013 07:18 PM

Need help creating a scape
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Chris.d514 03-22-2013 07:26 PM

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I kind of like this one with the line continuing through the rubble.

thelub 03-22-2013 07:38 PM

The line is cool. If you plan on keeping the plants at a minimum it might not go away, otherwise, the line might be lost after its covered with water and plants.

I would try seeing what it looks like with the biggest rock sitting up and tall.

maybe something like this?

Chris.d514 03-22-2013 07:43 PM

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