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Brian_Cali77 03-12-2013 06:32 AM

NAG - Aqua Glassware / Diffusers?
 
Anybody try these out? They look like Do!Aqua music note diffusers. However, just like some Up-Aqua stuff, the price is right! :)

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/NAG-aqua-musi...LRw~~60_35.JPG

xmas_one 03-12-2013 06:40 AM

You get what you pay for homeboy.

Mantis992 03-12-2013 06:51 AM

Seems like all ceramic/glass diffusers work the same whether it is a $50.00 ada one or a $1.99 Chinese one. Most come from China anyways so....

Brian_Cali77 03-12-2013 07:01 AM

Yeah sometime you do get what you pay for. However, I agree with you Mantis... I see a bunch of people happy with AquaticMagic lily pipes. I have Cal Aqua pipes, but I do have an Up Aqua diffuser and a no-brand glass drop checker from Ebay... all work great! This NAG music note diffuser is $16. Beats spending close to $50 if it does the same thing... we'll see.. I just ordered one!

lakemake 03-13-2013 08:29 AM

looking at the same item...
 
I wonder if this works for a yeast DIY CO2 generator. I got a small diffuser from eBay but it produces only one stream of CO2 bubbles. On the other hand, Fluval's diffuser for the 88g set produces at least 3 or 4 streams of much finer bubbles. However, glass diffusers look much more elegant in the tanks!

JeffyFunk 03-13-2013 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mantis992 (Post 2800850)
Seems like all ceramic/glass diffusers work the same whether it is a $50.00 ada one or a $1.99 Chinese one. Most come from China anyways so....

I disagree. All ceramic/glass diffusers work in the same manner, but the quality and quantity of the CO2 dispersion is VERY dependent upon the quality of the ceramic disk. I've used cheap ceramic diffusers and ADA ceramic diffusers and there is a big difference in their performance. The cheap ceramic diffuser did not produce as many CO2 bubbles and the bubbles it did produce were much larger in size. Also, this was for the ceramic diffusers coming straight out of the box so cleanliness should not have been a factor - I've noticed the efficiency of the CO2 dispersion to be very dependent upon how clean the ceramic surface is as well (which is why i go to great lengths to clean and maintain my CO2 diffusers).

lakemake 03-14-2013 04:37 AM

quality of diffuer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JeffyFunk (Post 2811914)
I disagree. All ceramic/glass diffusers work in the same manner, but the quality and quantity of the CO2 dispersion is VERY dependent upon the quality of the ceramic disk. I've used cheap ceramic diffusers and ADA ceramic diffusers and there is a big difference in their performance. The cheap ceramic diffuser did not produce as many CO2 bubbles and the bubbles it did produce were much larger in size. Also, this was for the ceramic diffusers coming straight out of the box so cleanliness should not have been a factor - I've noticed the efficiency of the CO2 dispersion to be very dependent upon how clean the ceramic surface is as well (which is why i go to great lengths to clean and maintain my CO2 diffusers).

I agree with JeffyFunk on the different qualities of different ceramic disks. I wonder if the NAG diffuser works fine with DIY CO2 generators.

Brian_Cali77 03-14-2013 05:38 AM

Well I placed the order and I'll receive it sometime next month. I have a pressurized and DIY system so I'll let you know if it works it both. I'll also comment on the size of the bubbles it releases.

I haven't had that many diffusers, 3 so far. My cheap Up-Aqua glass ceramic diffuser does have larger and small bubbles coming from it -- I also go to great lengths to clean the diffuser plate in H202 every time I do a PWC. I'm a bit disatisfied with that, but it works; my drop checker can attest to that. On the other hand, my black Fluval ceramic diffusers was even cheaper but the two that I have both create a fine mist of co2, better than the UP-Aqua. I'm sure that the ADA and Do!Aquas are the best, I don't dispute that... I just don't feel like spending that kind of money since I'm a full-time student. And then there's atomic GLA diffusers, those ae suppose to be great too... Anyway, we'll see how this NAG one is when I get it. Pretty good deal for $16 bucks shipped -- unless it's a total POS? LOL

Here's the one I actually ordered (shorter version from the pic I posted earlier)... hope to use it in an ADA 60-F I just ordered. :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...pse4d1bf65.jpg

lakemake 03-14-2013 10:25 PM

hope that NAG does quality control
 
My eBay glass diffuser is still working - giving one stream of CO2 bubbles. (5 days have passed)

But my Fluval diffuser for 88g kit stopped producing bubble after 4 days although it used to give finer mist of CO2.

Both bottle are the same size (750ml) with the same formula.

Anyway, I hope that NAG's diffusers have a uniform quality. I hope not that only some lucky ones work fine.

Green_Flash 03-14-2013 10:36 PM

ADA and Do!Aqua produce very fine and consistent bubbles I have seen to date for a long time. Even Barr recommends if you go disc diffuser go ADA.

You could check for used ones, they pop up from time to time. And probably by the time and money you spend trying all the knock offs you could have bought a genuine pollen glass.

Brian_Cali77 03-28-2013 11:48 PM

Alright as promised... AN UPDATE!

Okay this NAG-Aqua wasn't suppose to arrive till the end of April! I got it early, so no complaints here!

It was ordered on March 11th and I received it today :)

Let me tell you, the quality on this little diffuser is superb. I wouldn't be surprised that it's from the OEM manufacturer who produces ADA/Do!Aqua stuff! Not only did I save money, and I GOT MORE THAN WHAT I PAID FOR (in response to the old adage of "you get what you pay for"), this little gem produces some pretty small bubbles with no sign of co2 leakage escaping between the ceramic plate and glass -- something which unfortunately happens in my UP Aqua diffuser. I can't comment on whether or not they're production process produces consistency in quality in their other NAG diffusers... good news is, I ordered another one to report on that! :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps76ee11ce.jpg

Video of it in action...


FlyingHellFish 03-29-2013 02:30 AM

^ Your puffers are sooooo awesome! They're so curious looking at what you're doing.

lakemake 03-30-2013 02:19 AM

Congrats! What about with DIY generator?
 
Looks great in your aquarium!:thumbsup:
Have you tried with a DIY generator?
Thanks!:red_mouth

Brian_Cali77 03-30-2013 02:56 AM

Sorry I haven't tried it yet with DIY. Maybe I'll do it sometime next week when I have more time to put a DIY system together.

gnod 04-08-2013 02:53 PM

hmm i was just about to order the rhinox diffuser but saw this one too.
what's your co2 setup? is it a fixed output or adjustable? what's the outward pressure you have it at?


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