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calebkraft 02-25-2013 08:37 PM

New tank! Native fish biotope (hopefully)
 
Crazy story, my neighbor is moving out. He tossed out a 10 gallon and I asked about it. A few minutes later, I had a poor turtle in a 10 gallon as well as this 66"x 13"x12" custom tank for FREE.
http://i.imgur.com/qq1BzE5.jpg
well, after some research this long tank isn't deep or wide enough for the turtle so it looks like I get to have some fun!

My goal here is to create a stream environment with a natural filter.

Here's my idea.
I have a dirt/sand substrait. A power head pushes water from one end to another where it is forced through rocks, then gravel, then maybe a big sponge before being picked up and taken back to the powerhead.
http://i.imgur.com/qVKHX30.jpg

So I'm curious about how best to do my sub strait and filter.

Soil 02-25-2013 10:10 PM

Interesting idea!

I am working on a similardesign as well and I think your design looks like it will provide nice filtration :)

I do think that you should put 2-3 or so stacked boxes in the "filter area", pretty much like a canister filter. The lower box could have bioballs for easy waterflow, and the top box gravel to plant in. The sponge to the far right is great to catch particales trying to get into your pump. You would need some kind of grid in the bottom of the top box, but this way its easy to pick them up and clean if they clog.

If you manage to get a good enough flow your emersed plants are gonna have a blast!

TheRiverRat 02-26-2013 06:07 AM

Sweet freebie, a stream tank with some of those hillstream loaches and bamboo shrimp would be real cool lookin.

TheRiverRat 02-26-2013 06:08 AM

Just saw you said native fish biotope! Are you planning on putting some darters and minnows in it?

calebkraft 02-26-2013 12:43 PM

yep, I want to keep to small things. Darters, minnows,skulpin, as many bugs as I can find, etc.

We have some very beautiful darters and similar type fish here I'm hoping to find. We have niangua darters which can be very beautiful, but they're a bit scarce.

I really wish there were catfish that could stay small enough for this tank (1-2 inches). a "slender madtom"(Notorus Exilis) would be cool, they look like micro catfish and they're actually venemous.

TheRiverRat 02-26-2013 02:48 PM

It is amazing how awesome looking some of those darters are. I have caught a few rainbow darters seining on the river in my day. And a madtom would fill that small cat void, make a great bait for smallmouth too! Would be sweet to see some bugs in there to and watch them develop into adults. Ill be watching to see what happens with this tank. I have always wanted to create a stream environment!

devilduck 02-26-2013 02:51 PM

What are you going to do with the turtle? What type of turtle is it?

seuadr 02-26-2013 03:58 PM

are you suggesting a power head alone or are you going to have a pump feeding it?

calebkraft 02-26-2013 04:08 PM

I'm imagining one of those power heads that has an intake I could extend. I haven't done much research yet, but it seems like I've seen them before.

If I kept the intake lower than the power head, it shouldn't stress the impeller motor much.

xaqdaddy 02-26-2013 04:14 PM

Noturus are awesome
 
Used to have a couple. Wish I hadnt gotten rid of them.

calebkraft 02-26-2013 04:28 PM

I'm thinking something like one of these
http://www.championlighting.com/pics...ics/cobalt.jpg

but I can extend that intake across the tank.

seuadr 02-26-2013 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calebkraft (Post 2655354)
I'm imagining one of those power heads that has an intake I could extend. I haven't done much research yet, but it seems like I've seen them before.

If I kept the intake lower than the power head, it shouldn't stress the impeller motor much.

gotcha!

I thought you might be suggesting just an open ended power head and was thinking "how is he going to force it through the media" :proud:

calebkraft 02-26-2013 05:11 PM

cool local fish

Green sided darter
http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/dpwes/i...lennioides.jpg

rainbow darter:
http://www.dnr.state.oh.us/Portals/9...%20by%20BZ.JPG


banded sculpin
http://mdc.mo.gov/sites/default/file...ed_sculpin.jpg

and slender madtom
http://tolweb.org/tree/ToLimages/23b-n_exilis.200a.jpg

I intend to have crawfish as well. I think if I get them in there when they are babies (easy to find here), that they'll do less damage to the plants.

I won't even begin to list the massive amounts of inverts and insects I intend to gather. Lets just say "all of them"

scapegoat 02-26-2013 05:19 PM

that rainbow darter is incredible looking.

i need to see what i can find around south east PA

calebkraft 02-26-2013 05:26 PM

They are pretty amazing. THey don't look quite that bright all year around, but even when they're less colorful they are pleasing to the eye.


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