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newbieplanter 02-07-2013 10:51 PM

Moss
 
Why can I (NOT).... Grow moss of any kind? All my other plants went brown then came back my moss gets here lookin nice as hell then turns brown why?????

I got two 6500k 20w T12 sittin and inch above the water the "new moss" just below it in a quarantine tank of sorts it's grown on the SS mesh but started to let dirt go all over my tank an looks as though its gonna do what all my moss does Turn Brown and just take up space in my tank it's also sitting right over the DIY CO2 mix. Isn't moss supposed to grow in any water condition as far as the water goes its fine for fish an plants but not moss I guess.

aokashi 02-07-2013 10:56 PM

Moss
 
Maybe you can try answering these questions so that we can narrow down the variables...

what is your water temperature?
water hardness?
tank size?
light?
stocking?
position of moss in tank? (how well lit is it?)
PH?
other params?

what kind of moss did you get?

newbieplanter 02-07-2013 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aokashi (Post 2474514)
Maybe you can try answering these questions so that we can narrow down the variables...

what is your water temperature?
water hardness?
tank size?
light?
stocking?
position of moss in tank? (how well lit is it?)
PH?
other params?

what kind of moss did you get?

Temp 82 day time 78-79 night time
GH 75ppm
20h
2 T12s 20watts 6500k
3 Cory cats
2 flourecent tetras
2 Chinese algee eaters
2 orange tetra and 1 neon tetra
6 ghost shrimp
1 albino pleko the other died today
And 4-5 baby snails
The moss is flame moss on 3x3 squares of SS mesh its in an acrylic tank inside the 20gal in the left corner about 2-4" from the light and about 1.5-2" from top of water there is nothing even covering the bulbs not yet anyway
PH 6.8
No3 reading 0-20ppm
No2 reading 0
Mg/l chlorine 0
KH 40-80ppm
If I missed anything let me know ill post a pic in a sec too.

aokashi 02-07-2013 11:54 PM

Moss
 
Temperature could be a little high, moss prefers a nice flow (to keep them clean), and cool 70s... maybe even lower.

The corys will be happier with lower temps too :3 lol

maybe someone else can come along and help you with lighting and water hardness. I'm quite the noob when it come to that.

My own flame moss loved wood and grew beautifully in a 82F tank, but shaded from direct lighting. I think it did well because it was gradually acclimated to the higher temp...

personally I'm not a fan of meshes ^_^

AVN 02-07-2013 11:56 PM

Mosses don't like warm temps and intense light.

sc91006 02-07-2013 11:58 PM

I've had moss turning brown when the light was too intense, basically the light source is burning the moss. I think moving the moss to more than 10" from the light would help. Mines are at least that far away.

aokashi 02-08-2013 12:04 AM

Moss
 
For some reason my peacock moss is doing fabulous in super intense lighting...(3in directly under 23w cfl)? and right in front of the filter outflow :3

acitydweller 02-08-2013 12:31 AM

Why do you keep the temps so high? None of these fish or livestock require such high temps. Consider dropping temps down to 72-74 and everyone will be happier (and less baked)

Quote:

Originally Posted by newbieplanter (Post 2474922)
Temp 82 day time 78-79 night time
GH 75ppm
20h
2 T12s 20watts 6500k
3 Cory cats
2 flourecent tetras
2 Chinese algee eaters
2 orange tetra and 1 neon tetra
6 ghost shrimp
1 albino pleko the other died today
And 4-5 baby snails
The moss is flame moss on 3x3 squares of SS mesh its in an acrylic tank inside the 20gal in the left corner about 2-4" from the light and about 1.5-2" from top of water there is nothing even covering the bulbs not yet anyway
PH 6.8
No3 reading 0-20ppm
No2 reading 0
Mg/l chlorine 0
KH 40-80ppm
If I missed anything let me know ill post a pic in a sec too.


newbieplanter 02-08-2013 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVN (Post 2475106)
Mosses don't like warm temps and intense light.

I also have moss in a jar on the windowsill and the water is cool but nothing with the moss no growth nothing?

Here's the pic of the tank.
http://i855.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps19b4d2e4.jpg

Cryptocorynic 02-08-2013 05:49 AM

Are you using/overdosing Flourish Excel?

newbieplanter 02-08-2013 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cryptocorynic (Post 2478138)
Are you using/overdosing Flourish Excel?

No not at all!

blackwidow 02-08-2013 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVN (Post 2475106)
Mosses don't like warm temps and intense light.

agree w/ high temp but not w/ intense light ! i grow/farm moss w/ intense light and it works well.

newbieplanter 02-08-2013 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackwidow (Post 2478938)
agree w/ high temp but not w/ intense light ! i grow/farm moss w/ intense light and it works well.

Over the next week to make everyone happy ill lower temp. When I bought the fish from petco the sign on tanks said 75-82deg to keep fish an like I posted I have moss in the window temp about 70-75deg in a jar an nothing an yor not getting better than the sun for light that is what we strive to get in our tanks on a smaller scale tho plus petco they keep the tanks at 82 a tropicle fish store told me the same

acitydweller 02-08-2013 12:20 PM

You sound a bit down with this at the moment. Consider qualifying the advice feom people. Petco is not well known for keeping the best quairy plamts not livestock. Their job is to sell for profit and not foster the hobby.

You are merely keeping moss barely alive by putting them in a container filled with water. Moss, like all living things need several sources of nutrients. Consider going to home depot or walmart and picking up some liquid fertilizer from the garden section. That should have enough npk to boost some new green growth in that container. This advice comes from my own experience rebailitating some unwanted brown moss. The results were amazing. Try it and you will see. If u want a photo of the one i use, i can take a pic later

newbieplanter 02-08-2013 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acitydweller (Post 2479090)
You sound a bit down with this at the moment. Consider qualifying the advice feom people. Petco is not well known for keeping the best quairy plamts not livestock. Their job is to sell for profit and not foster the hobby.

You are merely keeping moss barely alive by putting them in a container filled with water. Moss, like all living things need several sources of nutrients. Consider going to home depot or walmart and picking up some liquid fertilizer from the garden section. That should have enough npk to boost some new green growth in that container. This advice comes from my own experience rebailitating some unwanted brown moss. The results were amazing. Try it and you will see. If u want a photo of the one i use, i can take a pic later

It's just I can never get a straight answer here, the moss in my tank get DIY CO2 mix, it also gets CO2 boost from ADI, and also plant grow, and another product from ADI that goes with the CO2 boost I wanna say its lush leaves or something like that can't think of the name right now an I'm out of the house but all those products are dosed the way according to directions on the bottles the only one I don't have an exact beat on is the CO2 mix but I'm gonna get a drop checker and better yet a real CO2 system. Thanks for the support yea that would be good if u can post or send the pic?


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