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esarkipato 11-16-2005 01:00 PM

esarkipato's 29g Setup (56K warning)
Okay, first off I'm new to getting pictures onto PT posts, so bear with me. :icon_mrgr

I spent 6 hours Friday tearing down my 20 gallon tank (which housed fish and plants) and setting up a 29 gallon in it's place. Not only that, but the new tank has flourite in the substrate! OOOOHHHH what a headache. But on to the picutures . . . .

Here's the old tank, taken before takedown:

Setting up the divider for the substrate on new tank:

Here's with the Flourite and Pool Filter Sand:

Overhead view:

I had to stick my canister on there with a bunch of floss, getting messy. Don't forget that my other tank is just sitting there, with a bubbler on it and 4" of water!

Planted, but still foggy. VERY hard to plant a tank you can't see into, but I was in a hurry.

The Result.

Blue Ram likes the sand . . .

So does the Goby . . .

Unfortunately, the 2 Blue Rams did not survive the transition. They made it to the new tank, but couldn't adjust. The 7 black neons, 2 yoyo loaches, and the goby all survived though.

In hindsight, I would NOT set up a tank with flourite in it, while the fish are waiting to be transferred. It was super stressful, but now I have 6" more height to play with plants!! heheeeee

Comments/suggestions encouraged!

Georgiadawgger 11-16-2005 01:21 PM

Wow, what a great job at the divider! I hope you can keep that setup that way. Were you planning on keeping it an open space where the sand is or were you going to plant a foreground (hint hint...hairgrass :))? Sorry to hear about the Rams. Given some time, this is going to be a good one!

Rex Grigg 11-16-2005 05:24 PM

The key to using Flourite is washing it before you put it in the tank. The first time I used Flourite I had the Flourite cloud in the tank. I then set out to find a better way to wash Flourite so you could use it right away.

That method is to use a paint strainer. I cover the details in my Guide.

kam 11-18-2005 09:06 PM

hope you get more Rams...they look nice in planted tanks

esarkipato 11-29-2005 06:21 PM

Hey all, well the tank has been growing in and "cycling" for a few weeks. No more deaths, so that's good and today I've added 2 rosy barbs from my other tank. I'm hoping they will pick on some algae I've got in there.

Gonna wait a few more weeks before looking for new rams!

esarkipato 01-23-2006 05:57 PM

Still haven't purchased RAMS, since I keep having random deaths in the tank. A raspora here, a tetra there, I'm just not comfortable with it yet. I did get a couple corydorus, though. Here's an out-of-date update, on 12/30:
I kind of needed to start planting the sand, as there is a healthy amount of algae (green, slimy) growing on it.

julesann 01-23-2006 07:50 PM

This is the first time I've see sand and flourite together. Did you silicone the plexi? I am starting a 20 gallon. I know that the sand would be better for my panda cory's, the clown loach I want to buy (rid my snails damn it!) and the clown pleco I have. Maybe this would be a solution - since I'm not fond of the orange substrate anyway.

Does it stay divided like that without much work?

shuks 01-23-2006 08:00 PM

your tank looks beautifull esark.. Keep the pics a commin

esarkipato 01-23-2006 09:04 PM

Thanks for the response y'all. awwwww, shuks your too kind. If you only saw the algae now . . (20 days since picture!)

julesann, I did not silicone the plexi. I figured the weight of the substrates would keep the dividers in place. As far as staying divided . . . i guess it depends on how picky you are. there are probably 30 peices of fluorite that are scattered on the sand, and the border where they meet is blurring more and more all the time. I am almost SURE that a setup like this is not feasable over years of time, but thought i'd try it anyways.

if you DO try it, make sure that you put more sand in than fluorite. I mean, make the DEPTH of the sand greater than that of fluorite. ideally they would be equal, but err on the side of more sand. Otherwise the fluorite would storm the beach, as it were :P

Wilder 01-23-2006 09:40 PM

Lovely tank!

Did you make that divider, or were you able to purchase it somewhere?

julesann 01-23-2006 10:12 PM

Yipes - the perfectionist in me is starting to panic at the thought of a few rogue chips of substrate messing up my sand! ;) Thanks for the advice!

esarkipato 01-24-2006 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by Wilder
Did you make that divider, or were you able to purchase it somewhere?

I made it. Just cut some plastic to about 1.5", then added the taller pieces just for filling. I tied the two pieces together with a twistie.

A Hill 01-24-2006 11:05 PM

looks nice!

i just redid my 10g went the whole way with rewashing substate to get copper out and stuff and bought a few guppies. then they started dieing. then when i wake up the next day all the guppies and 3 shrimp look really bad. i decide i should test for amonia! when i did it was off the charts! so i took rashinal action. i moved the shrimps and fish to my 55g. and added a good sized cup of the substraight from the 55g to the 10g. 3 days later amonia reads 0. and this was a planted tank. i thought i didnt need to worry about "cycling" because plants are loaded up with benifical bacteria? well maybe thats usually the case.

maybe the same thing has happened to you:icon_cry: check your amonia lvls.

hopefully you will pull thru!

-=- fish newb -=-

esarkipato 02-02-2006 08:25 PM

Okay, I've got some pretty bad algae in this tank.

A picture 2 weeks after the previous pic:
I added a cave to the left, with driftwood/java fern laying on top of it. There is very long, green, stringy algae growing on EVERYTHING, including the glass. Not to mention the green algae now covering the sand.

After a good scraping and some more growth:
I'm just kind of letting the plants and algae fight it out! I plan on introducing some shrimp soon, and maybe more otos.

I also added 3 new Blue Rams! They seem healthy, but I hardly ever see them through all those plants!

esarkipato 03-18-2006 01:03 PM

Just a little update on the Rams . . . . been a while since last post here! A pair formed immediately (even though they look very young), and they spawned once, seriously only a week or two after I got them. Ate the eggs. Spawned twice, ate the eggs again. i'm planning on removing as many fish as possible exept the rams, maybe that will help the process.

The sandy foreground is still planted with ambulia, I keep it pretty well trimmed. thinking about ripping it out, and cleaning up the sand for that open foreground look. It's amazing how bright that stuff was to begin with, and how dirty and "earthy" it looks now!

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