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Kensho 01-30-2013 05:40 PM

Eheim Classic 2217?
 
I am fed up with my Aqua clear70. It is just too noisy. Thinking of a solid cansiter for my 30g tall. Any thoughts on uing a Eheim Classic 2213?

mrkookm 01-30-2013 05:58 PM

Eheim Classic 2217?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kensho (Post 2398498)
I am fed up with my Aqua clear70. It is just too noisy. Thinking of a solid cansiter for my 30g tall. Any thoughts on uing a Eheim Classic 2217?

That's an excellent filter. I have 2 2213 which I purchased to use on my 30gal, but only ended up using 1. Water quality is on point, so buy that 2217 with confidence.



from my iP 5 via Tapa.

Kensho 01-30-2013 06:18 PM

oops I meant 2213 - Your running a 2213 on your 30g ok?

shambhalove. 01-30-2013 06:25 PM

My 2217 is about as loud as my aquaclear 20 :) eheims are great

The Trigger 01-30-2013 06:32 PM

I have a 2215 running on my 29 standard. Dead silent for 5 years. Simple design and the water is crystal clear. You can't go wrong with an Eheim classic. I find the 2215 provides plenty of water movement for the tank.

Jaques 01-30-2013 06:43 PM

It all depends on how many fish you have in the tank. I like eheim and I also like fluval.. both work very well and are very quiet.

Rainer 01-30-2013 06:52 PM

Re: Eheim Classic 2217?
 
2217 was a good choice for my 29g.

Edit: just saw your edit about the 2213. I'm running those on 10g tanks and wouldn't consider them sufficient for a 30g.

mrkookm 01-30-2013 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kensho (Post 2398810)
oops I meant 2213 - Your running a 2213 on your 30g ok?

Yes.

Kensho 01-30-2013 07:24 PM

Just picked up a 2217 from Big Als - with all the discounts it was about the same as a 2213. My current bio load is small 15 tetras, 3 Odesa Barbs, couple of shrimp and a pleco.

mrkookm 01-30-2013 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainer (Post 2399130)
2217 was a good choice for my 29g.

Edit: just saw your edit about the 2213. I'm running those on 10g tanks and wouldn't consider them sufficient for a 30g.

lol...don't try to scare the man ma brotha. You make it sounds as if it's incapable of handling a tank of that size :) I use it so I know it will work.

If he wants to shell out more for the 2217 then by all means he can do so, but you make it seem as if it's incapable of keeping the water quality pristine? If you are looking at it from a flow perspective then yes it might not create optimal flow throughout the tank, but a simple fix to that is to add a power-head to get circulation optimal (as I've done). Regarding it's Bio-load capacity it's designed for a larger tank, so if flow is in check he has nothing to worry about.

Cthulhu 01-30-2013 08:32 PM

Changing my aquaclear for a Eheim 2213 was the best thing I ever did for my 25g. I've had it for over 5 years and it's perfect. I have a relatively small bioload, but I also almost never do water changes.

thebuddha 01-30-2013 08:41 PM

i have a 2213 on my 29g and it is no where close to enough flow. filtration needs are met though, at least i think so. I have had to use a koralia for more water movement.



im planning on upgrading to a 2217.




edit: i would recommend buying the 2217 online from bigalspets (they are a sponsor to the forum) they have the 2217 for $125 and you can use a coupon to get an additional 10% off, plus its free shipping since its over $100.

So it ends up being roughly $120 after tax :D

Rainer 01-30-2013 08:50 PM

Re: Eheim Classic 2217?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrkookm (Post 2399522)
lol...don't try to scare the man ma brotha. You make it sounds as if it's incapable of handling a tank of that size :) I use it so I know it will work.

If he wants to shell out more for the 2217 then by all means he can do so, but you make it seem as if it's incapable of keeping the water quality pristine? If you are looking at it from a flow perspective then yes it might not create optimal flow throughout the tank, but a simple fix to that is to add a power-head to get circulation optimal (as I've done). Regarding it's Bio-load capacity it's designed for a larger tank, so if flow is in check he has nothing to worry about.

I'm not disputing your experience but I still say what I did for two reasons.

1. I'm running a 2213 on a 10g half moon using a lily pipe and a pack of purigen. Flow is low despite the valves being fully opened; it was last cleaned six weeks ago and has an intake strainer. It's a low tech tank with low bioload so no big deal, but I wouldn't be able to upsize the tank or add a reactor, for example.

2. I have a 2217 maxed out on a high tech 29g, using a reactor, a heater, purigen, and a spray bar angled for maximum O2 addition. Even at full blast, I still need a power head, though I despise the way it affects the look of the tank.

The OP didn't specify his operating conditions, so that was the best general answer I could give. It's about scalability; he can always turn down the flow on a 2217 but may not be able to turn up a 2213 high enough.

Kensho 01-31-2013 02:13 AM

Eheim Classic 2217?
 
@thebudha picked a2217 from bigals, super deal

I skipped right to the 2217 because the gph was closer to my aqua clear 70

bennyjam 02-01-2013 02:34 PM

Re: Eheim Classic 2217?
 
Just grabbed a 2217 for my 29g at bigals for $113 including shipping. Good deal! Can't wait to ditch my HOB.


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