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xspidermikex 01-20-2013 04:12 PM

need advice, my tank looks like crap! HELP!
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I got all the plants i wanted and some manzanita wood, just suck at arranging it like a aquascape pro, i need some input/advice/ideas please

riccia on stones
dwarf grass
xmas moss on manzanita wood
manzanita branch

Rich Guano 01-20-2013 05:12 PM

What has been seen can not be unseen!

Just kidding, what you have is a good start. That wysteria you have hidding in the back right corner will become a big bush the size of your wood, so give it space and time to grow. That wood may look better on its side mosty beneath the sand, with the wiysteria growing among it.

the plant you have in the back would benefit from an opposite corner from the wysteria.

What i am saying is that your best plants are too tight up against the back of the tank. bring them forward some, room to grow and become center (corner) pieces as they grow.

xspidermikex 01-20-2013 05:51 PM

haha yeah it sucks, so your saying lay the branch on its side under the sand? im gonna have to see how that looks.
thanks for the input

xspidermikex 01-20-2013 06:02 PM

any ideas as for what to do with the riccia attached to stones?

Rich Guano 01-20-2013 06:50 PM

the riccia on the stones looks awesome. I like the placement and presense of the piece at the front left. these things can be moved later after you see how your stems start filling in. Give it time.

Take pics every couple of weeks. Its fun to look back and watch things grow in!

Kathyy 01-20-2013 06:52 PM

I would lay the branch on its side in the middle of the tank and put the wisteria behind it. Plant the Ambulia on the right side and forward a bit, it sure is pretty stuff! Put the moss covered wood propped up against the base of the branch and as the moss grows clip it off and tie to the branch. Pull out the grass to replace your riccia stones. Play with arranging them more thoughtfully, perhaps the largest between the others and the two larger ones closer together than the smallest. See the rules of iwagumi arranging for ideas. After you are happy with the Riccia go ahead and replant the hairgrass behind and to the sides of the Riccia.

You might want to read through this thread. Very good stuff there!

CPDzeke 01-20-2013 08:50 PM

Needs moar plants!
Needs moar light!
You do have a great start.

Bluek24a4 01-20-2013 09:09 PM

I think you're off to a great start. I can't be the only one who things that driftwood is begging to be a moss tree of some sort. You could rearrange the rocks as a group together at differing angles by building the sand up under them to make it look like a mossy rock patch, maybe more by the wood so it looks like its leading up to it.

Again, great start. The plants look healthy so far.

xspidermikex 01-20-2013 10:00 PM

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updated, not sure if i like it yet

Rich Guano 01-20-2013 10:55 PM

There are two approaches to "decorating" an aquarium. Most of us fall into the group that are compelled to 'stage a scene' with our hardscapes and plants. As if we are building a stage in which our fish will perform like actors on a stage.

To truly create a spectacular aquascape, you must "capture" a scene from nature. Something natural that you would have stumbled across in your travels and caused you to stop in your tracks and pull out your camera.

It is said that in order to draw a tree, you must first become the tree. You must draw each branch and leaf as if it were reaching for the sun.

Create you tank as if you are the plants, not the observer.

xspidermikex 01-20-2013 10:58 PM

yeah this is harder than i thought, i think im gonna tap out and just give up

Rich Guano 01-20-2013 11:17 PM

Look, just throw in all the plants you can find, and call it a "jungle" theme! That's exactly what all us do. Besides, the best part of you tanks viewing pleasure only comes after your plants have taken over and started filling in the tank on there own.

For now, I recommend you learn how to not kill plants and fish. Learn what plants will grow in your conditions it best done by keeping a variety of plants.

don't worry over how it looks, it only looks that way because you lack plants.

By the way, where is the wisteria. That is one of the best starter plants. Very hardy and grows quick. You can even let it float. This plant will grow roots at every node that is horizontal. I have grown this plant to a full size mature plant from a single leaf. You can use this plant to learn how to trim and replant and divide the stems.

Stick with it Spidey.

jjp2 01-20-2013 11:19 PM

Don't give up.

Try moving the wood diagonally forward from its current position, put the wisteria behind it in the corner.

Knotyoureality 01-20-2013 11:58 PM

It takes time and experience to develop any skill. Doesn't happen over night, doesn't happen by magic.

The wood piece looks much better in the second layout, and your layout of the riccia covered stones has helped to establish two separate masses with a nice open space between them that gives the eye someplace to rest.

What you need now is more plant mass--especially to fill in behind the wood piece to create more contrasting textures/colors and feeling of depth.

If you're not in a position to add a bunch of plants at once, one option to create a really nice look in the meantime is to cluster all your plants over to one side, creating a focal point around the wood and a large open field of sand on the other. It would maximize the affect of the plants you have until you can get more.

xspidermikex 01-21-2013 01:54 AM

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thanks Knotyoureality I decided to bunch everything i have for now into a center point and i really like the way it looks so far. thanks everyone for the input. Heres the final outcome:

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