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jamntoast 01-20-2013 12:47 AM

90g SA river scape (prob 56k warning needed)
so i've taken the plunge and purchased a new tank to replace the 60 g hex and the 20 g currently in the corner of the living room. thank f'n god. with all of the equipment and cords and fish tank stuff that i'm not using it's not only an eyesore but probably a fire hazard too. so i'm upgrading to a used 90 gallon and i can't be more excited. this is the tank and stand how i purchased it.

so first things first i wanted cabinets instead of an open metal stand so i went down to home depot and got a big sheet of plywood and some other materials and slapped some doors and sides on it leaving a gap at the back of the stand for the tubes and cables etc. here is that mostly complete.

so far so good.

for the tank itself i'm not planning on anything to crazy. i will have a soil substrate with a sand cap. i want to get pool filter sand or something but i will probably end up with play sand because it's easier to get and i'm lazy. hah not really a good thing but it is what it is.

the fauna i'm planning so to put in it is...

4 keyhole cichlids
maybe 6 or so corydoras (not sure which sp. yet)
a pair of bolivian rams
a bunch of rummynose tetras prob 20-30 or so
and to round it off maybe a pair of angels. i havent decided yet if i want them there.

the flora will be...

amazon sword
rubin sword (i think)
gigantae vallisneri
red tiger lotus
anubias barteri nana
anubias frazeri
anubias lancelot
anubias congensis
crypt wendtii bronze and green

this is the scape i have planned so far laid out on some black poster board. i've outlined the tanks dimensions in white chalk. ill have the amazon swords in the back corners with the val's along the entire back wall of the tank. in the middle will be the hard scape, it will be a bunch of driftwood with rocks piled around it. in those rock i will put all of the nana, and i have a lot of it. so it should be mostly covered. the rest of the plants will be sorta scattered around the mid with the forground being the crypt wendtii. here are some pics

this is without the hardscape

this is the hardscape i've mostly decided on, the rocks might get rearranged

i'm pretty happy with it so far. more to come.

let me know if you have any suggestions or anything.

NWA-Planted 01-20-2013 12:50 AM

Looks promising i love how you made a blue print on paper like that! Very neat idea

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jamntoast 01-20-2013 12:59 AM


Originally Posted by NWA-Planted (Post 2291665)
Looks promising i love how you made a blue print on paper like that! Very neat idea

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ha honestly i'm mostly just impatient and this was the closest thing to actually doing it up. haha. but ya it was a good thing i did it because i didn't know how i was going to do the center hard scape thing so i wanted to get a dry run on it. doing that helped though because it showed me that the top branch on it will prob be too long so i might have to cut it down.

RynoParsons 01-20-2013 10:57 AM

Would work. Just remember the rule of 3rds. Dont place any thing perfectly centre.

gt turbo 01-22-2013 04:04 PM

I agree with RynoParsons, do not centre your main focal point, and i find you have alot of open swimming area. I would suggest that you create some territories with other rocks especially to establish spawning sites for your keyholes and rams. Just ensure to separate them out so that no two sites are closer than let's say 12"-14" and break up the sight lines between them.

This works well in theory but my rams neglected the spawning sites i made available and chose driftwood and in one case just the substrate.

jamntoast 01-22-2013 04:20 PM

Ya I've been thinking about putting my center peice off center, I figure if I move it a bit to the left that should line it up with a couple focal points. Most of the open space that's on my little diagram is actually going to be filled with crypt wendtii at the front and I'm still looking for something else in the mid to back areas that are open. So it won't be as stark as it looks. What do you suggest for rocks to create territories? Just make a little wall here and there? Or maybe like a nest with one side higher to block their sight?

jamntoast 01-23-2013 11:31 PM

so i did it, it took all day. its not totally done, i still have a lot to do, but ive got the hard part done with. made a ton of mistakes along the way, but it worked out. here's a picture dump.
here are the tanks i've torn down.

here are my tubs of plants

here is the hardscape in action, i tried to put it off center there was a lot less room than i'd imagined even with my little dry run.

and here is the tank after all the work i'm going to do today. i'm running 2 more filters than i plan to permanently just to clear up the murkiness. should be fine soon.

you cant really see the details with that i'll update with another pic prob tomo to give a clearer picture and maybe with more plants in place. i still have to find a spot for most of the anubias add some more val's in the middle at the back

jamntoast 01-24-2013 06:03 AM

I added some more stuff here and there. Which does everyone like better?

Without anubias nana all over the driftwood and rock pile

Or with anubias nana all over the driftwood and rock pile

jamntoast 01-26-2013 12:01 AM

Here are some clearer pictures.

Conrad283 01-26-2013 12:35 AM

Looks great

GMYukonon24s 01-26-2013 02:52 AM

Beautiful plants, I like the scape.

jamntoast 01-26-2013 04:22 AM

Thanks, the empty space at the back isn't as noticeable usually, some of the Val had broken loose and floated up. I think the fish like the scape a lot I think it's a little disorganized but it's working so far. The fish I have in it so far are my 4 small keyholes, 2 Bolivian rams, and 2 angel fish. Everything was taken from 2 old tanks I tore down to make room for this one so everything is cycled. I hope as it grows it will become more defined. But I feel like I have some good territories for everyone to be happy. Everyone's been getting along.

jamntoast 01-26-2013 03:57 PM

With this tank my whole design idea was to keep it all relatively low maintenance and to keep it dark ish with a lot of shade and diffused light. Pretty much all of my other tanks have been either under direct light or if there is shade its either too shady to the point of being dark or just crowded so with a bigger tank ( my biggest before was a 75) I have a bit more room to play around and plan a more comfortable environment for my fish. There totally be some really dark areas, specifically on the left by the swords, but I'm really happy with the plants I have selected. None are really going to be growing out of control where I can't simply correct easily. Not that trimming is necessarily hard.

jamntoast 01-29-2013 08:33 PM

so question to you folks. what plants do you guys think i should put in the forground. so far it's just some bronze wendtii and some "florida sunset" wendtii. i'm looking at medium to low light plants. i was thinking for the rest of the free space i was going to do a combo of just regular green wendtii and more bronze wendtii prob 70% green 30% bronze. i figure i dont want it to be too brown at the front but i also dont want it to be too green, does anyone have any other suggestions? specifically crypts that work as a forground/mid?

here is a pic for context. the green isn't so bright irl

jamntoast 01-29-2013 08:54 PM

here are some pics of a couple of the fish i have in her so far. here are my bolivian rams chilling.

and here are some of my little keyholes. man are they ever hard to get a good picture of, everytime i come up to the tank they disappear and i'm just using my phone so any pics over 5 feet away look like trash. but here you can kind of see them popping their heads out. look close though! ha

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