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Jim_PA 01-09-2013 11:59 PM

Micro Sword & Dwarf Sag
 
I plan to put Dwarf Sag the entire front of my tank, it 6 feet. Then have some Micro Sword I plan to put around rocks and fill in with it. Or will that be to much? I was going to get half/square foot, but thinking that might be overkill. This is for 125, Maybe I should avoid the micro sword all together?

tex627 01-10-2013 01:50 AM

Dwarf Sag is an odd choice for a foreground. By using Microsword in the true foreground and using Sag in the midground, you can create a much more complex scape. Maybe go half half?

DogFish 01-10-2013 02:02 AM

Knowing the history of that tank I'd suggest you limit the plant Sp. and choose the toughest of the tough. Of these two I would suggest the Dwarf Sag.

Same with the Swords, pick 2-3 sp. maybe different leave shapes to give varity. Get this monster tank going strong. Then start introducing other plants. Try to match requirements as close as you can in your selections.

Jim_PA 01-10-2013 12:25 PM

So here what I am thinking for plants. I have one time to get this right, if plants die it be long time before I can get any plants again. Also won't be able to really add more plants in say 2 months from now. Once the first round of money spent on it, I am done with spending on it. Least that what I have been told ha ha. Also wanted the tank to be planted very heavy so that why such high number of stuff.

Dwarf Sagittaria - 60
Narrow Leaf Sagittaria - 60
Dwarf Amazon Sword Plant - 6
Rosette Sword Plant - 8
Amazon Swords - 4
Red Melon Sword - 3
Vallisneria spiralis - 60
Anubias barteri v. Nana - 4
Anubias, Barteri Broad Leaf - 4
Tiger lotus red 3
Tiger lotus green -3
Micro Sword (Lilaeopsis Brasiliensis) half/square
Uruguayensis Sword- 4
Red Rubin Sword - 4

Jim_PA 01-10-2013 04:57 PM

Anyone else before I put order in?

n00dl3 01-10-2013 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DogFish (Post 2197074)
Knowing the history of that tank I'd suggest you limit the plant Sp. and choose the toughest of the tough. Of these two I would suggest the Dwarf Sag.

Same with the Swords, pick 2-3 sp. maybe different leave shapes to give varity. Get this monster tank going strong. Then start introducing other plants. Try to match requirements as close as you can in your selections.

1+ from all your posts that I've read. I think I would stay as simple as possible (Kept It Simple Stupid).

Maybe I might be stepping out of the line here. But you seem to get overwhelm too quickly and quit. well, not quit but I think you make it so hard on yourself that your wife see that... which cause her to step in to make ya stop. Sometimes the your other half (wife) knows you better than you know yourself.

Jim_PA 01-10-2013 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n00dl3 (Post 2203074)
1+ from all your posts that I've read. I think I would stay as simple as possible (Kept It Simple Stupid).

Maybe I might be stepping out of the line here. But you seem to get overwhelm too quickly and quit. well, not quit but I think you make it so hard on yourself that your wife see that... which cause her to step in to make ya stop. Sometimes the your other half (wife) knows you better than you know yourself.

:red_mouth

Kathyy 01-10-2013 06:45 PM

Keep it simple!

Get just one ground cover, not 2. My least fussy gc has been marsilea.
Dwarf Sagittaria - 60
Micro Sword (Lilaeopsis Brasiliensis) half/square

Either one, not both
Narrow Leaf Sagittaria - 60
Vallisneria spiralis - 60

Great mid ground plants but get 6 of 1 kind.
Dwarf Amazon Sword Plant - 6
Rosette Sword Plant - 8


Get 4 of one species not 4 different kinds
Amazon Swords - 4
Red Melon Sword - 3
Uruguayensis Sword- 4
Red Rubin Sword - 4

Choose one and get more of it.
Anubias barteri v. Nana - 4
Anubias, Barteri Broad Leaf - 4

Get one of whichever you like best not 6. They are monsters and big as your tank looks it isn't going to hold 6 happy lotus plants.
Tiger lotus red – 3
Tiger lotus green -3

scapegoat 01-10-2013 07:47 PM

you going craaaaazy.

i'm planning on like... 6 different plants for my 125 haha

Jim_PA 01-10-2013 07:48 PM

I think that part of the reason I always have problems.

Jim_PA 01-10-2013 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kathyy (Post 2203586)
Keep it simple!

Get just one ground cover, not 2. My least fussy gc has been marsilea.
Dwarf Sagittaria - 60
Micro Sword (Lilaeopsis Brasiliensis) half/square

Either one, not both
Narrow Leaf Sagittaria - 60
Vallisneria spiralis - 60

Great mid ground plants but get 6 of 1 kind.
Dwarf Amazon Sword Plant - 6
Rosette Sword Plant - 8


Get 4 of one species not 4 different kinds
Amazon Swords - 4
Red Melon Sword - 3
Uruguayensis Sword- 4
Red Rubin Sword - 4

Choose one and get more of it.
Anubias barteri v. Nana - 4
Anubias, Barteri Broad Leaf - 4

Get one of whichever you like best not 6. They are monsters and big as your tank looks it isn't going to hold 6 happy lotus plants.
Tiger lotus red 3
Tiger lotus green -3

This post is very helpful, thank you.

One of the main reasons I was going with so many, is that my wife wants it planted very heavy. So I wanted to make sure it really filled up. Do you think I can still do that with making limited numbers? Or do I just still limit the type, but increase the number of that type? For example, 6 swords to fill the back of the tank?

wendyjo 01-10-2013 07:58 PM

Dwarf sag will fill it up all by itself if you let it.

n00dl3 01-10-2013 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim_PA (Post 2204394)
This post is very helpful, thank you.

One of the main reasons I was going with so many, is that my wife wants it planted very heavy. So I wanted to make sure it really filled up. Do you think I can still do that with making limited numbers? Or do I just still limit the type, but increase the number of that type? For example, 6 swords to fill the back of the tank?

I think you're taking all the fun out of a planted tank. Plants do grow!!! It will it fill in over a period of time. One of the fun thing about planted tank, is watching your tank progression. If you overfilled it on day one, what are you enjoying?


You reminded me of people going into LFS, buy a cute little 2" to 3" common pleco for their 5 gallon tank. Not releasing 6 months later it got to 6" to 8" long and destroying everything in their tank. Then returning the pleco back to LFS say, 'I didn't know they get so big!".

Patient... enjoy your tank... grow with your tank... learn the art of taking care of your planted tank.

scapegoat 01-10-2013 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim_PA (Post 2204394)
This post is very helpful, thank you.

One of the main reasons I was going with so many, is that my wife wants it planted very heavy. So I wanted to make sure it really filled up. Do you think I can still do that with making limited numbers? Or do I just still limit the type, but increase the number of that type? For example, 6 swords to fill the back of the tank?

limit the type, and buy more.

If you're anything like me, it'll make it easier to keep and maintain because you're unable to keep up with the maintenance of a million different plants and their requirements and growth rates.

you'll end up with a more cohesive natural looking tank that, i think, everyone will be happy with.

The Dude 01-10-2013 08:53 PM

Dwarf Sag spreads like crazy. The entire floor of my 75g is covered in it. It grows really fast. I agree with just dwarf sag for the carpet and fewer plants. It looks really good as it grows in


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