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Forumsnow 01-08-2013 04:53 PM

Oebt just came :-)
My shipment of oebt just arrived, from Colorado to Connecticut from yesterday after till about noon today. They were shipped express but that is super fast for the post office I must say. It would appear I got more blues than blondes than I paid for. Very very happy, now hopefully I can keep them alive! PWC ro unit will be here tomorrow so I can stop buying distilled water. Also my package from alphaprobreeders will be here tomorrow with my shirakura ca+, mosura bt-9, mosura old see mud powder and finally som IAL. Beyond excited here is a pic of the drip acclimating. Will probably let them drip for the next 3-4 hours just to be safe.

Any one with any tips or tricks would be appreciated.

plamski 01-08-2013 05:32 PM

PH 6.5,TDS 220,KH 0.5,GH 6-8,Temp 68F,GOOD LUCK.

Rob in Puyallup 01-08-2013 05:36 PM

They're pretty easy to keep and breed... good luck with them!

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Forumsnow 01-08-2013 06:09 PM

Thank you really hope I have good luck with them. My parameters I pretty spot on at ph7.0 gh5 kh 1 temp about 71 tds in the 180's. The guy I got them from had ph6.8, do you think this will cause a problem? I'm hoping the Indian almond leaves will help drop my ph that last little bit. It seems like keeping temp low so they do not get bacterial infections is the biggest problem. Thankfully I have central air included in my rent so this should not be any trouble.

Was wondering if anyone had any little tricks to share that isn't already out there. Could be anything you feel has really helped you be more successful keeping them.

Thanks again guys. Will be putting them in the tank in about 2 hours. Here is the tank I will be putting them in, it's a 12 long

And as a bonus, my supreme red having a smooch with my oto. Just caught this now as I was writing this.

ravensgate 01-08-2013 06:34 PM

Every time someone says they're easy I want to tear my hair out. They are easy for some and then others can't keep them alive. They are prone to bacterial infections and every time you introduce them to new water or new stock you subject them to new bacteria. Some can handle it and some can't. Stockpile in IAL leaves and alder cones for antibacterial and anti fungal properties. I recommend a food with beta glucan in it for their immune system. I like mosura tonic pro myself. And good luck:). Getting them to breed wasn't hard for me, getting them to live was. I still have a few and every day I just cross my fingers they are healthy and alive. They are my absolute favorite shrimp out there , they are just finicky. Oh and keep temp below 72. Any higher and you're asking for a bacterial infection outbreak.

Forumsnow 01-08-2013 07:08 PM

Lots of IALs good tip ravensgate! I have not heard if that one yet. I got 20 of them coming tomorrow. Believe they are med-lg from alphaprobreeders. Do you think one at a time will be good? Or put a bunch in.

I really hope my research and all my preparation help me fall into that group that has no problems. We will see though, hoping for the best.

sbarbee54 01-08-2013 07:43 PM

Soak a couple in a bucket for a day or so then plop them in. OEBT are Fineky. Find most people that say they have breed them with good results. Usually only got up to about 50 or so. When I consider breeding good is 300+. They do get bacterial infections easy, they are sensitive and need a good TDS and GH so they do not have failed molts. Tigers in general are hard shrimp to handle. So dont worry ravensgate, most people wh are breeding them with good results feel like you and have their fingers crossed at all times. I have about 150+ right now going good, but I have been at the 300 point and it all crash out to like 50 or 60 left.... I have had great luck breeding all neos, CRS, PRL CRS, Currently have about 30-60 baby TB that were just release, and I pray everyday my OEBT tank and BTOE tank do not crash.....

Temp at 69 like Plamski said is a must. If mine get to 70.5 they do not like it

Betta Maniac 01-08-2013 07:43 PM

Is that a 12G tank? I'd but 3-4 leaves in. There are people on Aquabid that will sell you hundreds for very little money (you don't need the giant A-grade ones after all). Good luck with them!

sbarbee54 01-08-2013 07:47 PM

I agree I like the broken down ones "C" grade a little better they tend to decay a little faster

ravensgate 01-08-2013 07:49 PM

It's kinda up to you on amount of leaves. Just keep in mind the antibacterial and anti fungal properties come from the tannins themselves (according to my research) so if you soak all the tannins out before putting them in the tank you may lose those properties. The tannins may lower the ph a tad but I've never noted significant lowering personally. Your experiences may vary:). If you'd like to try a little bit of the tonic pro just message me. It's a powder so what I do is sprinkle some out on a plate, get my fingers wet in dechlorinated water and roll it around until it forms little balls. They'll sink right in the tank:). Just a little extra tip in case it comes in handy.

Forumsnow 01-08-2013 07:59 PM

Some great stuff here sincerely appreciated. I got these for fairly cheap so I figured they were a great next step without setting up another tank.

I keep seeing temperature is the most vital thing. I am contemplating hooking up my reef keeper to this tank for heater control and also fan control. I think having central air will be a huge win for these.

ravensgate 01-08-2013 09:10 PM

I don't heat any of my tanks and they stay between 68-70 and I think we generally keep our house at about 70-71. But none of my tanks are in direct path of the vents either. In the summer though I use a cooling fan on top of the tank to keep it right at about 69-70.

Forumsnow 01-09-2013 01:33 AM

Thank you very much ravensgate. I am sure you will have great shrimps karma haha.

I ended up acclimating for like 5 hours lol, so hopefully they will do great.

I wish I could have taken some pics but they're so small and my macro lens for iPhone won't be here till like the end of the month I think. Oh we'll guess that's what you get for $5.

Forumsnow 01-09-2013 01:52 PM

Just a little update. Tigers seem to be doing amazing! These little guts seem to be constantly foraging and swimming around. They are so very active compared to how my supreme reds have ever been(no disrespect to speedie's shrimp, they look great). I just did a real good search of the tank and could not find a single dead one, kind if surprised. They all seem very happy looking for food. A very poor quality pic of 2 if them going to town!

speedie408 01-09-2013 02:17 PM

haha You haven't seen nothing yet. OEBT and BTOE are generally more active than any other Caridina as well as Neos. Check out this vid I shot of my OEBT tank a while back:

They are known cannibals because of this behavior as well. They will eat their young if their appetites aren't curved appropriately lol.

Congrats on the pickup and good luck!

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